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Old Nov 29, 2020 | 10:02 PM
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Factory tires affect on payload?

Is it true that the tires that come on a truck from the factory will affect the payload sticker? I was wondering how much affect not ordering upgraded tires will decrease the payload sticker? I'm ordering a F250 CCSB and wasn't planning on getting the optional larger tires since I plan to put on Nitto's right away, but now I'm considering because I want the max payload possible on the sticker for my truck.

I don't necessarily need a larger payload or I would have ordered a F350, but if I can increase my sticker for an additional $265 I might consider it.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by kowabunga138
Is it true that the tires that come on a truck from the factory will affect the payload sticker? I was wondering how much affect not ordering upgraded tires will decrease the payload sticker? I'm ordering a F250 CCSB and wasn't planning on getting the optional larger tires since I plan to put on Nitto's right away, but now I'm considering because I want the max payload possible on the sticker for my truck.

I don't necessarily need a larger payload or I would have ordered a F350, but if I can increase my sticker for an additional $265 I might consider it.
Choice of tires will effect RAWR and are easy to upgrade. You are posting in the TC forum-get the 1 ton.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 07:35 AM
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Buy the one ton, simpler solution.

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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 01:46 PM
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If you are looking to change it on paper then get the 1ton. If you are looking to keep money in your pocket the 250 can be upgraded to well beyond a stock 350.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by beachcamperf250
If you are looking to change it on paper then get the 1ton. If you are looking to keep money in your pocket the 250 can be upgraded to well beyond a stock 350.
Oh I know that the actual limits of the truck will differ from stickers payload depending on what I do with it. But I read in the forum that the payload sticker reflects the capability of the truck as it's built at the factory, and that larger tires from the factory will increase that payload sticker number.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 02:22 PM
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The highest rating on a F250 is achieved with the HCTP and gives a 10,800lb GVWR. Are you looking for highest axle or payload rating?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 02:35 PM
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Are you looking for legal payload?

Payload sticker is not a legal weight limit. You can remove that sticker if you desire.

Add the axles ratings together and register the gvwr at that number.

To determine legal payload weigh the truck the way you typically use it (without anything you intend to carry as payload, like a camper, etc, but with a full tank, the normal tools and passengers you normally carry, etc) and subtract what it weighs like that from the registered gvwr.

That is the current legal payload. This number fluctuates constantly as you use fuel, drop off or add passengers, add groceries, etc.

Don't exceed the registered gvwr, the individual axle ratings or tire ratings and you are legal.

All of this assumes the tires are rated at least as much as the axles. Tires rated higher than axle rating is better.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by beachcamperf250
If you are looking to change it on paper then get the 1ton. If you are looking to keep money in your pocket the 250 can be upgraded to well beyond a stock 350.
Can you explain? How are numerous upgrades going to save $?
 
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You save $$ not having to pay the higher taxes and registration fees some states impose on 1ton trucks.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2020 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kowabunga138
Is it true that the tires that come on a truck from the factory will affect the payload sticker? I was wondering how much affect not ordering upgraded tires will decrease the payload sticker? I'm ordering a F250 CCSB and wasn't planning on getting the optional larger tires since I plan to put on Nitto's right away, but now I'm considering because I want the max payload possible on the sticker for my truck.

I don't necessarily need a larger payload or I would have ordered a F350, but if I can increase my sticker for an additional $265 I might consider it.
Tire sizes don’t affect the F250 CCSB payload because the rear GAWR is 6340 lbs. no matter what the configuration.

Big items that do affect the F250 CCSB payload are the optional Diesel engine (~800 lbs. hit) the optional 4x4 (~400 lbs. hit), high-end trim packages, and a few other heavy options.

For example, an F250 CCSB 4x2 with the standard 10K lbs. GVWR, 6.2 gas engine, base trim, and no other options has a factory max payload spec of 3880 lbs. The same truck with the optional Diesel and 4x4 has a factory max payload spec of 2620 lbs.

If you want the Diesel and a 4x2 or 4x4, then an “F250 payload rescue” work around is to order the optional high capacity towing package, which increases GVWR to 10,800 lbs.

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Jim / crewzer
 
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Old Dec 1, 2020 | 07:30 PM
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I ordered the camper+snowplow packages, which upgrades the springs and sway bars. Then, I upgraded the tires. Factory tires were 3100#, upgraded tires 3590#. Springs handled 7000 on the rear axle just fine, with some help using Torklift stableloads and air bags. That was for 40k miles of hauling a Lance truck camper. I recently upgraded to an F350 dually, since I am getting old and can use some more stability.
 
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I ordered a F450 so I don't have to sweat the small stuff
 
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Originally Posted by beachcamperf250
You save $$ not having to pay the higher taxes and registration fees some states impose on 1ton trucks.
Why not get the 1 ton with OE de-rate?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Tex
Why not get the 1 ton with OE de-rate?
Specifically, the “California friendly” F350 SRW’s no-cost 11,400 lbs. GVWR derate (Option Code 68L).

HTH,
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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by longhaultransport
Are you looking for legal payload?

Payload sticker is not a legal weight limit. You can remove that sticker if you desire.

Add the axles ratings together and register the gvwr at that number.

To determine legal payload weigh the truck the way you typically use it (without anything you intend to carry as payload, like a camper, etc, but with a full tank, the normal tools and passengers you normally carry, etc) and subtract what it weighs like that from the registered gvwr.

That is the current legal payload. This number fluctuates constantly as you use fuel, drop off or add passengers, add groceries, etc.

Don't exceed the registered gvwr, the individual axle ratings or tire ratings and you are legal.

All of this assumes the tires are rated at least as much as the axles. Tires rated higher than axle rating is better.
This is the best answer thus far.
 
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