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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 05:20 PM
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What should be a simple question...

So the new pig has a GVWR of 11,100 and invoice for truck shows 6,589 shipping weight of the truck. Wouldn’t this leave a payload capacity of 4,511?
payload sticker on door jamb says 3,888.
what am I missing.
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 05:37 PM
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Is it shipped with a driver and full tank of fuel?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 05:39 PM
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Ignore the shipping weight. If you want to be accurate scale it and subtract that from the gvwr.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Chilling
Is it shipped with a driver and full tank of fuel?
lol right?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
Ignore the shipping weight. If you want to be accurate scale it and subtract that from the gvwr.
yeah makes sense.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 06:38 PM
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A trip to the cat scale will reveal your true payload.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2020 | 05:30 AM
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The sticker on mine says GVWR is 10,800lbs and 2,751lb payload. I went to the CAT scale a couple of weeks ago and weighed in at 8,480lbs. So according to the scale I have 2,230lbs of payload left.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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Got to the scales today! still trying to get to the available pin weight for fifth wheel.
The truck with me in it and full of gas we are at 7280.... ive plugged in the numbers, the only unknown is the hitch.
i feel i will have right around 3k for pin weight.
payload sticker 3888, actual payload 4214.
would love to hear your thoughts on what i have here.



 
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Old Nov 27, 2020 | 12:22 PM
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Just wondering how you got to an actual payload of 4214. 11,100 GVWR minus 7100 actual curb weight of truck equals 4,000. What is the Gross Rear Axle Weight Rating for your truck. You don't want to exceed the axle rating. That is a more important consideration than payload.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2020 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnee1
Just wondering how you got to an actual payload of 4214. 11,100 GVWR minus 7100 actual curb weight of truck equals 4,000. What is the Gross Rear Axle Weight Rating for your truck. You don't want to exceed the axle rating. That is a more important consideration than payload.
weight of gas is 214.
rear axle is related at 6780. Tires are rated at 3415 each @ SRW
 
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Originally Posted by NewTekBuzz
weight of gas is 214.
rear axle is related at 6780. Tires are rated at 3415 each @ SRW
Rear GAWR is 6,780, so subtract your scaled rear axle weight to get your remaining capacity on the rear axle:
6780 - 3160 = 3,620 lbs.

As you add passengers, stuff, hitch, etc, your rear axle capacity will be used a little. Absolute "sure fire" method would be to load up the tanks, the family, all the stuff and the hitch, then re-weigh on the scale.

In theory, you should run out of GVWR before you run out of GAWR
 
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Old Nov 27, 2020 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by scollins1868
Rear GAWR is 6,780, so subtract your scaled rear axle weight to get your remaining capacity on the rear axle:
6780 - 3160 = 3,620 lbs.

As you add passengers, stuff, hitch, etc, your rear axle capacity will be used a little. Absolute "sure fire" method would be to load up the tanks, the family, all the stuff and the hitch, then re-weigh on the scale.

In theory, you should run out of GVWR before you run out of GAWR
yep I understand. So a portion of the stuff will be distributed across both axles... and the only true way to know is like you said.
we are planning to purchase so just want to make sure we fall within the numbers or real close.
thanks for the help.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2020 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NewTekBuzz
weight of gas is 214.
rear axle is related at 6780. Tires are rated at 3415 each @ SRW
Got it. The trucks stickered payload is calculated by subtracting the curb weight from the GVWR. Curb weight includes a full tank of fuel.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2020 | 01:45 PM
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I think the 6,780 GAWR is derived off the tires.


I think the 20 inch and 18 inch wheel AT tires are like 3640 lbs each at 80psi and they tag those trucks with a higher rear GAWR.


Incase you need some extra safety margin in your rear GAWR. Food for thought...
 
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Old Nov 27, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
I think the 6,780 GAWR is derived off the tires.


I think the 20 inch and 18 inch wheel AT tires are like 3640 lbs each at 80psi and they tag those trucks with a higher rear GAWR.


Incase you need some extra safety margin in your rear GAWR. Food for thought...
thanks, still taking it all in. So a little better tire gets you some added LBs.
so many different ways to check these numbers.

 
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