Does anyone make an intake manifold to run carbs on a V-10? I have a V-10 I would like to use in an old truck, but I don't want to be stuck with all the electronics.
John

 

I would bet that what you'd spend to have a manifold made, or adapted would triple the cost of figuring out the electronics. I would guess that if you had the factory wiring harness it shouldn't be too difficult, not near as difficult as trying to come up with a carb/manifold. Even if you don't have the wiring harness companies such as Painless wiring will have something that will work with your engine and the computer. I would think tuning a modern day engine without all the electronics would be an absolute nightmare, if it even could be done. Good luck.

 

Well, it's not the figuring out of the electronics, it's the use of them period. I don't want to use the rear axle with the speed sensor, or the electronically controlled transmission. Without them, the computer doesn't have the proper info, so nothing works right. I was thinking of putting the engine in an older F-800 with a 5 speed and 2 speed rear, but it won't work if I have to use the computer and electronics. That's why I am selling it and I will go back to the original plan of using a 460. I would NEVER dream of going through the expense of having a manifold built for a project like this.

 

You could use an After Market ECU. I have a Motec ECU in my offroad Turbo Subaru. All the stock sensors where used. The cost is a little steep up front. But the motor performs Perfectly! EFI is hands down better than a carb. Power band will be better also.
You can eliminate the sensors that are not needed to run the motor.

 

well it was the damnedest thing i saw a while back on the fx show driveshaft. they where building sandrails out of old buicks or something and one team didn't want to mess with the electronics, so they cut a hole in the intake and made a mount for a carb and the sucker worked. It was crazy.

 

I've been working on this same situation for a while now, I've learned a few things so far....

1... Superchips the company can make me a program for the stock ecu that deletes the sensors like the wheel speed sensor (not needed with the 5 speed... your brain tells it when to shift), the charcoal canistor... the guages... and anything else that you don't really need.. price comes to about $600 not including the computer itself.

2... Motec is very expensive for the V10.. needed is the main ecu along with two additional modules for the extra cyls injection and fire. Halltech is a less frills, but more in some departments, $1700 or so off the top of my head.. but you've got to program it yourself to do as you want it to. This can be very dangerous to your motor if you don't know what you are doing.. but doable. The Halltech guys told me that they could probably program me a base setup that will get the motor running and tuning would have to be done from that point. They have a decent A/F ratio meter that one can use to be sure your not going to burn a piston up but really the tuning should be done on a dyno.

3.. the good old carb... well I have spent a few hours looking at doing this, and it is possible, and quite easy to do if you've got a tig and the time to play with some aluminum. Problem there is you still have to use or make a device to fire the coils at the correct time.. companies do make these types of devices too.. just more money and a little bit of programming to set it up.

My pros list is basically...

Stock ecu with deleted sensors:
-less expensive than other options
-stock computer design and basic workings ( or basically stock, of course the superchips guys will use their maps)
-stock wiring harness (with extra connectors removed...)
-no dyno time required, no or much less chance of harming the motor and it should just work... if you knock on real wood...

Halltech ecu:
-Cool full interface to the computer, you can change anything...
-bragging rights...


Carburated: pros and cons...
-less efficent in power and milage than a well planned map
-Looks cool, is cool... Pro
-easy to troubleshoot... um.. easy.. lets just say more normal for many of us...
-Slightly lower overall engine heigth
-still have to deal with electronic detection and fire of coils.


I have run other motors that were built and designed for injection
with carbs, and have had great results, and I am sure the V10 would run well too.. the other options for this motor though are more appealing to me. Maybe I am just not ready and willing to let the computer beat me!

Do let me know what you decide, it would be great to have someone else to bounce things off of.

Scott

 

Scott, if you decide to go with a carburetor, you could fire the coils with a wheel trigger ignition like Electromotive. This will take the coils and timing out of the equation.
Check out these guys: www.lola332.com/

 

tossing a bone into the pen...




Propane anyone?

 

Dragging up this old thread from 17 years ago. Has anyone come up with a solution since then? I was just reading elsewhere that Ford has produced somewhere around 750,000 of these engines so they should be plentiful, fairly cheap to obtain and and experiment with.

 

They'll make you one for under $5000!

https://www.hogansracingmanifolds.co...ifold-pricing/

One-off DIY:

https://www.modularfords.com/threads...take-manifold?

Do a search. It's just not there.

You could put a 2100 2bbl on one of these with an aluminum plate and some JB Weld:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...6&d=1503595937