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Sounds like you are mechanically inclined. If so, any year v10 is fine. The early ones tended to blow plugs. Helicoil or timesert is usually the fix.
finding an 05 will likely be well out of your price point. The difference between 05 and 04 is the headlights and grill.
upgrading the earlier years may be more cost effective especially with a limited budget. I think you will come well north of 8mpg given your towing depending on terrain and your speed.
That's pretty much where I'm at in thinking as well. The good part about the 6.0 trucks and living in the rust belt is that parts are abundant, so I can update the front end and that stuff fairly easily.
Originally Posted by MasterX
And ill chime in here as well, I have a 2000 Excursion V10, and you will not have to worry about maintaining 65 MPH, unless you want to. With that load i do not see an issue being able to do 75+ if the road conditions and trailer are suited for it properly.
The V10 Excursion is deceptively quicker than it appears, its not a sports car that is for sure, but for a big giant armored iron monster, it moves like someone is back there kicking its *** and whipping it when you push the pedal completely to the floor, though when you floor it on the V10, remember your fuel flow is much like a flushing toilet until you let the pedal back up...
That's good. I wasn't overly concerned with speed... I just don't want to be that guy on road trips that's waaay behind after a medium hill. I've never driven a V10 equipped truck so the only experience I've had was the 5.4.... hence the apprehension hahaha
Originally Posted by ASFC27FTFBQ
Since you said that you do not plan on using your Ex in the snow, consider a 2 wheel drive. I've had one for 21 years and have not gotten stuck, yet. I would, however, consider a limited slip diff. I have a TruTrack and it works flawlessly. You can cut the cost of the installation when you replace the gears, as WE3ZS suggested. I went with the 4.56 with OEM size tires. In my opinion, try the new gears with the stock tires first and if you don't like them, you can always go with the bigger tires at a later point.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
I thought about looking for a 2wd... A buddy of mine has a 2nd gen cummins ram that he uses to tow his trail rig and he loves the simplicity of the 2wd... Less stuff spinning on the highway. But, it seems like every Ex I've come across was 4wd. Comes with living in a snowy climate I guess. I half ruled out the 2wd anyway because eventually, I want this thing to be capable enough to take the family places. But I don't think I'd totally pass on one of the right one came along.
Originally Posted by Apocalypse
6.8 FTW, I went 6.0 and prefer the 6.8 between the two. The 6.0 has insane power (I've done more than I ever should have) but the 6.8 is just more fun being I don't have to worry about the black smoke driving around if I get on it even just a tad.
Good to hear. I've driven 6.0 trucks and man they can pull some serious power. But the potential for failure scares me. Especially when I'm hundreds of miles from home.
Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Buy the cheapest POS you can find.
by the time you get all its issues sorted out and set up just the way you want it you will be an excursion guru.
they are easy to work on, parts and options widely available due to the huge supply of f250s from that era. All excursions are built off the same platform so Reconfiguring them is easy. You can Even bolt on the 2005 + f250 linked front suspension.
Common wear stuff like seats, bumpers, lights, ect is easy and affordable to fix
but the motor you want, fix the rest.
I am more of less of that thought process. I have no issues with regearing it myself or adding a limited slip or a locker, so I'm just trying to find an example of the truck that will give me a solid platform to go off of. The only caveat is have is that is like something running and driving when I get it with pretty minimal issues, side from maintenance stuff. That way I can put it to work sooner so I know what to prioritize and what can wait.
Thanks guys, you've comforted my apprehension about the gas V10. I'd hate to look for something and hate the truck later on.
Having driven 5.4 SDs and my Ex V10, and 2 Expeditions which were also 5.4 i can add the following to ease your feelings.
Pre-2005 5.4(2V) is reliably, a turd, they seem to last well, and be reliable, but i do not believe they belonged in any SD or Excursion vehicles based on power to weight ratios. And even the 2005 Excursion V8 model got the 2V 5.4 so its booo tooo.
My two Expeditions with 3V 5.4s are 2005 and 2009, and man they are worlds faster and stronger than the older 2V 5.4s, so unless you have driven a 2006+ SD that had a 3V 5.4 you are bound to believe 5.4 sucks. The 2V 5.4 engine just isn't good for that weight class.
the V10, is actually the ideal gas engine for such vehicles, and in my opinion, should have been the base non-diesel engine option. Because it has the grunt, and the reliability to drag this vehicle, and its load, even if it is a bit thirsty.
The 5.4 Ex's are best suited to hauling the family, and not much of a load, unless you like being that guy who is way behind after a hill in 2nd gear and 25mph.
I have pulled the same TT with my V-10, my father-in-law's 7.3 diesel and my brother-in-law's 5.4 (F-250). The V-10 pulled WAY better than the 5.4, about equal to the 7.3 and mileage was better than the 5.4 and SLIGHTLY less than the 7.3. With the V-10, you sometimes need to get the rpm's up higher than with the diesel. Hope this helps.
2V 5.4 has plenty of displacement, it just cant breath at all, crappy flow in-efficient heads, i've seen far better numbers come out of them with aftermarket ported and polished BV heads though, but its easier to just get a V10 and be done.