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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 11:45 AM
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Ever seen this before?

I've seen these engines converted into air compressors and vacuum pumps, but never run like this.

 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 11:49 AM
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I don't think you'd want to do that for very long. I realize there's no combustion that would cause overheating, but the friction alone in the cylinders without water to keep everything moderated can't be good for anything.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 12:06 PM
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I had the rockers and push tubes off a 292 once so I could crank it to see if I had oil flow from the head to the rocker shafts and the dang thing started and ran on 4 cylinders from the opposite bank
 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 12:16 PM
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There's some kind of troubleshooting test they used to run back in the day, sort of like a cylinder contribution test. In a contribution test the exact RPM drop is recorded for each cylinder as the ignition is shorted out. In a healthy engine the drop should be uniform across all cylinders.

Can't remember which ones exactly, but the torture test involved idling a V8 on just two cylinders. Two cylinders in consecutive firing order if I remember right which I may not.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 12:54 PM
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I don't think you'd want to do that for very long. I realize there's no combustion that would cause overheating, but the friction alone in the cylinders without water to keep everything moderated can't be good for anything.
The side that's running can be filled with water. There's no connection between the two banks except at the radiator.

 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 01:41 PM
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Here's the air compressor. Couldn't find a vacuum pump video but it works in much the same way.

 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 03:22 PM
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I've seen old air compressors, Ford 4cylinders, where it ran on 2 cylinders and the compressor was the other 2 cylinders.
Pretty cool
 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 04:15 PM
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I have a Gordon-Smith model A compressor. It runs on the two end cylinders and pumps air with the center two. It will pump a lot of air. and runs smooth on two cylinders.
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 04:58 PM
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My dad had a Schramm with a Wisconsin V 4 that ran on two, pumped two. Loud, not so smooth but it pumped air, which was the object.....
 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 05:28 PM
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I have a Gordon-Smith model A compressor. It runs on the two end cylinders and pumps air with the center two. It will pump a lot of air. and runs smooth on two cylinders.
Mark

 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 05:58 PM
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That's it, Ross. Mine needs a good cleaning. I haven't used it in a couple of years. The tank is 30-35 gallons and dated 1944. When the engine is warm you can completely empty the tank and start the engine, it will run the tank from 0 psi up to 120 psi and cycle down in 30 seconds. I was told that the construction companies that built the AlCan highway had a large fleet of these compressors and a shop that rebuilt them.

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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 06:24 PM
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I'm surprised they can get over 100 psi, must be 2-stage?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 06:41 PM
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I'm surprised they can get over 100 psi, must be 2-stage?
Not with two air cleaners and no intercooler. Single stage is good for 150-ish PSI. This one must be at least 75 CFM though. I'd be surprised if it was any less.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 07:22 PM
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It is single stage. I have the governor set at 1600 rpm. The block is bored .100 over with stock stroke. I was told it would run a 90 lb jack hammer. It will rum a 1/2" sand blast nozzle with no problem.
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 09:43 PM
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Not with two air cleaners and no intercooler. Single stage is good for 150-ish PSI. This one must be at least 75 CFM though. I'd be surprised if it was any less.
Model A engines had 4.2:1 compression ratios
 
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