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Old Oct 16, 2020 | 01:23 PM
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Engine Removal Question

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We are in the process of removing the engine from my L99 7.3. We are at the point of disconnecting the trans and was wondering if anybody has diagram or schematic of what bolts need to be removed. Obviously we are not mechanics but my son and I can wrench a little. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Oct 16, 2020 | 05:05 PM
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Automatic or manual?

Much different removal/installation procedures for each.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2020 | 06:38 PM
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At this link, I posted the instructions on how to remove the 7.3L on a 2002 MY truck. Give me a moment and I will post the instructions for a L99.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post19494888
 
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Old Oct 16, 2020 | 06:48 PM
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The L99 is not noted in the Ford Service Manual, but the 2000 is. I have included the instructions for removing an engine from the 2000 MY. In addition, I have included details about each transmission, also from the Ford Service Manual.

I hope that these drawings and instructions from Ford will give you the guidance that you seek for you and your son to have a successful wrenching experience together.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2020 | 08:04 PM
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Thanks everyone. Really appreciate it.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2020 | 08:19 PM
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All right gentlemen here are a few pics. Now remember we don’t know Jack about removing engine’s but I wanted to give it a shot. As u will see i royally messed up. I failed to remove the torque converter before removing engine and broke the outer shaft. Not sure if this an easy replace or will I have to remove transmission and get professionally fixed. My son is a little bummed about it but it will get fix. Will be an expensive lesson idk. But it was fairly easy removing engine. Now the fun part begins.

My son. Hard at work he did most of the work.






 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 07:01 AM
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Sorry to hear of your troubles. Did you forget to remove the nuts holding the torque convertor to the flexplate?

 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 10:33 AM
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"Broke the outer shaft".

The stator shaft? That's a pump removal and disassemble job. Pics of the broken part, please.

If you're talking about the drive hub for the pump that's part of the torque converter, it's anyone's guess as to the extent of the pump damage or hub bushing damage.

That's quite a feat though....removing the torque converter while still mounted to the engine without jacking up the cab and transmission.

Another thing to question.....
If there was enough stress on the torque converter while removing the engine, you might remove the flexplate and check for cracks around the crank flange bolts because these flexplates have a hard enough time not cracking there under normal use.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 12:06 PM
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I have no pics of the broken pieces but its on the pump portion and it looks like getting a new or rebuild pump is very doable. Looking at videos it shows that there is supposed to be a pump gear attached to converter but I don’t see it. Is it possible that my year doesn’t have one? The tranny had been rebuilt and was working fine prior to pulling engine.

this the video I was looking at.

 
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Didn't you post a picture of the broken piece last night?

I know I saw the shaft with a broken collar or something on it, but looking through the pictures now I don't see it.

Maybe I was hallucinating again, but that doesn't normally involve broken 4R100 parts...
 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 12:29 PM
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The pump gear (rotor) is part of the pump, not the converter. The two flats on the converter hub engage the pump gear. Yours is not missing something - that picture from the video is simply showing the relationship between the parts. I'm not aware of any torque converter with pump parts attached to it (except in the case of improper assembly or friction welding) as disassembly would be impossible.

You made a lot of extra work for yourself. However, you CAN remove the pan, the filter and the pump with the transmission in the vehicle and it is entirely possible to do this with the transmission under the pickup.

A ******* moment I had earlier this year involved a transmission rebuild in which I forgot to install the overdrive clutch. In my defense I had stuff strewn about three tables (drawn-out project). After backing out of the shop, I saw the parts sitting there. After a bit of cussing, I dropped the transmission, supported it with ratchet straps, dropped the pan, the filter, and pulled the pump back out. I installed the previously-forgotten frictions and steels and put it back together. All said and done I may have been in the whole re-do about an hour. Putting a new pump in it (not disassembling your old one because that requires more tools and patience) would be pretty easy at this point. Just know you must remove the pan and filter to get the pump out.

 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
The pump gear (rotor) is part of the pump, not the converter. The two flats on the converter hub engage the pump gear. Yours is not missing something - that picture from the video is simply showing the relationship between the parts. I'm not aware of any torque converter with pump parts attached to it (except in the case of improper assembly or friction welding) as disassembly would be impossible.

You made a lot of extra work for yourself. However, you CAN remove the pan, the filter and the pump with the transmission in the vehicle and it is entirely possible to do this with the transmission under the pickup.

A ******* moment I had earlier this year involved a transmission rebuild in which I forgot to install the overdrive clutch. In my defense I had stuff strewn about three tables (drawn-out project). After backing out of the shop, I saw the parts sitting there. After a bit of cussing, I dropped the transmission, supported it with ratchet straps, dropped the pan, the filter, and pulled the pump back out. I installed the previously-forgotten frictions and steels and put it back together. All said and done I may have been in the whole re-do about an hour. Putting a new pump in it (not disassembling your old one because that requires more tools and patience) would be pretty easy at this point. Just know you must remove the pan and filter to get the pump out.
Cleatus thank u. Makes me feel better. I knew I would be making mistakes but removing the engine and attempting a re build is something that I’ve been wanting to do and now that my son is interested it’s become a good project for us.

would u mind explaining why I need to remove pan and filter? Do I need access to those areas to remove? I really do appreciate ur help.
 
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@Amicus , are these pictures below not the ones you uploaded last night of the damage and then subsequently removed?




 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 01:44 PM
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@Amicus , are these pictures below not the ones you uploaded last night of the damage and then subsequently removed?




yes I posted. I’d didn’t realize they had been removed. I didn’t remove them. I thought Cleatus was talking about actual pics of the broken pieces.
 
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would u mind explaining why I need to remove pan and filter? Do I need access to those areas to remove? I really do appreciate ur help.
Because the filter tube plugs into the bottom of the pump. I mean, you CAN pull the pump without removing the filter (the tube is plastic) but you will have a non-functioning transmission when you put it back together.
 
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