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Old Oct 17, 2020 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by George C
That’s very possible. Be happy with it..

There are two ways to make Federal emissions.
One was 2008-2010 100% engine killing EGR. Remember the 6.4L, and the difference it made when deleted?

The other is the current SCR technology that takes advantage of DEF after treatment..which dramatically cuts back the need for harmful internal EGR. As the years have passed and SCR technology refining even more, more DEF and less EGR is the approach.
So, for an extra couple dollars of DEF, you’re saving your engine internals from harmful EGR processing and all of the burned contaminates floating in your oil..
So, every time you are adding DEF, you are actually saving your engine from EGR death.
We shall see in the future how the redesigned 2020's hold up compared to the older design. I don't delete my trucks but I believe in working them hard to help keep them clean so mine is used mainly for towing. If I want a grocery getter I get the F150 out.

I still get a regen about every 500 miles when towing whether I need it or not........ LOL
 
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I believe there the system is set up to regen when the DPF is full or at a maximum of 500 miles since the last regen.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by kluger
I believe there the system is set up to regen when the DPF is full or at a maximum of 500 miles since the last regen.

Not set it stone. Even with my 2020 I have exceeded 600 miles and am currently over 600 with a soot % of 10. Towing will extend the interval. I have auto regen turned off so it has not completed an active regen in the background.

My 2013 (the unicorn) I could go from Maryland to Colorado without a regen. (all towing).
 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by senix
Not set it stone. Even with my 2020 I have exceeded 600 miles and am currently over 600 with a soot % of 10. Towing will extend the interval. I have auto regen turned off so it has not completed an active regen in the background.

My 2013 (the unicorn) I could go from Maryland to Colorado without a regen. (all towing).
Since my GF drives part of the time I can't tell exactly how often it regens as she never looks at the gauge. I do know that even with towing we had one regen going to CO and one returning. It's 660 miles each way. We did take several trips around town though which of course clogged the DPF up. I guess I am going to have to move the gauge over towards the center of the truck where I can see it from the passenger side!
 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by senix
Not set it stone. Even with my 2020 I have exceeded 600 miles and am currently over 600 with a soot % of 10. Towing will extend the interval. I have auto regen turned off so it has not completed an active regen in the background.

My 2013 (the unicorn) I could go from Maryland to Colorado without a regen. (all towing).
Interesting. I'm pretty sure that my 2011 would do an active regen at about 500 miles needed or not. I just read the OM for my 2020 and it says "For most driving, regeneration frequency varies from 100-500 mi between occurrences". Doesn't really say that it will force one at 500 miles or not. Does turning off auto regen prevent it maybe? I haven't hooked up Forscan to the truck yet, just got it home Friday night.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by senix
Not set it stone. Even with my 2020 I have exceeded 600 miles and am currently over 600 with a soot % of 10. Towing will extend the interval. I have auto regen turned off so it has not completed an active regen in the background.
That is not experience in my 2017, but of course the newer technology of the 2020 trucks is going to be different.

According to a spreadsheet that I have kept since I got the dealer to activate my DPF gauge, I am right at 500 miles non-towing miles between regens. The gauge is always showing 99% at that point.

Towing mileage between regens averages about 400 miles.

I did go 680 miles 1 time, but I was in Yellowstone with low speed limits so the truck never got up enough speed to regen.

It is difficult to keep detailed notes on DEF usage, but I definitely use more DEF when towing. Makes sense: More fuel, more DEF needed.
 
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Does the 2020 still flash up a message that it is "Cleaning Exhaust Filter" when an active regen starts like my 2011 did?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 11:46 AM
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Does the 2020 still flash up a message that it is "Cleaning Exhaust Filter" when an active regen starts like my 2011 did?
That ended when the 2017s came out. I doubt they brought it back with the 2020s
 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnguy
That is not experience in my 2017, but of course the newer technology of the 2020 trucks is going to be different.

According to a spreadsheet that I have kept since I got the dealer to activate my DPF gauge, I am right at 500 miles non-towing miles between regens. The gauge is always showing 99% at that point.

Towing mileage between regens averages about 400 miles.

I did go 680 miles 1 time, but I was in Yellowstone with low speed limits so the truck never got up enough speed to regen.

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Low speed driving will not stop a regen. As long as you don't have it in park it will regen.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2020 | 12:53 PM
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Does the 2020 still flash up a message that it is "Cleaning Exhaust Filter" when an active regen starts like my 2011 did?
No indication of a regen. I had to buy the Banks idash.
 
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Yes my 2020 would not tell you , but with auto regen off then it will notify.

Banks idash will report it too.

Trick to exceeding the 500 miles is EGT 4. If I can keep that at or above 800F then it will passively regen faster than it produces soot.

in my 2013 unicorn it would regen about once a month and exceed the length routinely.
 
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