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When they went to the aluminum body and changed the suspension (softened it up) they basically ruined the F150 for towing. With my '13 I could tow nearly anything (tuned by 5star) and the wind didn't bother me much. With this '17 even pulling a RZR on a 12' trailer isn't much fun in the wind thus I now have two trucks..
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I agree with you on towing comments.
I suspect the 6.8L will replace the 5.0L for the following reasons. Cheaper to build/increase fords profitability, much less complex, more compact, possibly lighter, synergies at plant w 7.3L. Will be aluminum block so not used in SD. Need not have class leading hp/tq. But have a bit more then now maxed out 5.0L. Probably have DI. If it was at lets say 425/450 in f150 form on reg fuel that would be my choice. No turbos, not high strung, towing mpg doesn't fall like rock. To me thats the only way the 6.8L makes sense.
Interesting compare 2021 5.0L vs GM 6.2L. 400/410 on regular vs 420/460 on premium. Very impressive numbers for the 5.0L but must be nearing max for truck use?
I suspect the 6.8L will replace the 5.0L for the following reasons. Cheaper to build/increase fords profitability, much less complex, more compact, possibly lighter, synergies at plant w 7.3L. Will be aluminum block so not used in SD. Need not have class leading hp/tq. But have a bit more then now maxed out 5.0L. Probably have DI. If it was at lets say 425/450 in f150 form on reg fuel that would be my choice. No turbos, not high strung, towing mpg doesn't fall like rock. To me thats the only way the 6.8L makes sense.
Interesting compare 2021 5.0L vs GM 6.2L. 400/410 on regular vs 420/460 on premium. Very impressive numbers for the 5.0L but must be nearing max for truck use?
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I agree with you on towing comments.
No turbos, not high strung, towing mpg doesn't fall like rock. To me thats the only way the 6.8L makes sense.
Interesting compare 2021 5.0L vs GM 6.2L. 400/410 on regular vs 420/460 on premium. Very impressive numbers for the 5.0L but must be nearing max for truck use?
No turbos, not high strung, towing mpg doesn't fall like rock. To me thats the only way the 6.8L makes sense.
Interesting compare 2021 5.0L vs GM 6.2L. 400/410 on regular vs 420/460 on premium. Very impressive numbers for the 5.0L but must be nearing max for truck use?
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ya' got me on that one! Better stick to my shotguns... :-/
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And as FCA has learned, you can say "F*** CAFE rules" and build what people actually want and your sales go through the roof. Maybe Ford is finally figuring this out as well.
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Why wouldn't it? Mustang is going to grow in size to match the Challenger according to Automotive News, which makes sense considering that Challenger still outsells Mustang and Camaro indicating that a larger vehicle is what buyers want. And guess what? The Challenger has a great big ol' pushrod 6.4L Hemi under the hood. A 6.8L pushrod motor would give Ford a nice competitive powerplant for the new, larger model.
Same thing people said when rumors of the 7.3L engine broke a few years ago.
And as FCA has learned, you can say "F*** CAFE rules" and build what people actually want and your sales go through the roof. Maybe Ford is finally figuring this out as well.
Same thing people said when rumors of the 7.3L engine broke a few years ago.
And as FCA has learned, you can say "F*** CAFE rules" and build what people actually want and your sales go through the roof. Maybe Ford is finally figuring this out as well.
The Challenger barely outsold the Mustang in the latest figures and I’m pretty sure that has to do with the generous incentives that FCA has on most of their vehicles.
Ford increasing the size of the Mustang to be more in line with the Challenger?
Please stop smoking whatever it is you’re smoking. 😂
As far as the 7.3 goes, rational and reasonable people, and I’m including myself in these groups, were saying all along that this engine was for the SD and that came to fruition. The 7.3 for the F150 was nothing more than click bait.
Sooner not later, FCA will face the harsh realities of CAFE and adapt or die.
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A lot of speculation here . . . so if I add a little I'm probably not doing any harm: If they went with a smaller pushrod V-8, they could fairly easily do cylinder deactivation like GM and FCA have been doing on all kinds of V-8s for years. Then they can get decent fuel economy numbers while still having big bad power and V-8 noise etc. that folks want in mustangs and pickups.
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A lot of speculation here . . . so if I add a little I'm probably not doing any harm: If they went with a smaller pushrod V-8, they could fairly easily do cylinder deactivation like GM and FCA have been doing on all kinds of V-8s for years. Then they can get decent fuel economy numbers while still having big bad power and V-8 noise etc. that folks want in mustangs and pickups.
I have a Coyote in my 2016 and my average is 22.5 MPG combined.
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Ehhh not trying to be a Debbie downer here but the V10 is a 6.8L. And nowhere in that article does it say V8. So what if the new engine is just some different heads or a electric/hybrid version of the v10. I know it will fit in that platform f150 because the CC superdutys still use the v10. Not sure if a v10 can be crammed in a mustang though. I’m most likely
conolestly wrong but it seems odd they would use the same displacement in a v8 they had in a v10. All those triton motors the 4L V6, 5.4L V8 and 6.8L V10 are all the same motor with two added cylinders on each one. So we will see.
conolestly wrong but it seems odd they would use the same displacement in a v8 they had in a v10. All those triton motors the 4L V6, 5.4L V8 and 6.8L V10 are all the same motor with two added cylinders on each one. So we will see.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think the 4.2L V6 or 4.0L V6 share any components with the modular engine family.