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So july 20th someone decided they didn't have to look when pulling off the shoulder of a road into a 55 mph highway and I was only about 30 ft away when he entered my lane. I was hit mostly in the bumper fender right front wheel and my camper. The body shop fixed the body and sent it to an alignment shop which replaced the front axle, the spindle and sent it back to me saying it was good. I ended up having my wife drive it in front of me in my other car and just as I figured it drives down the road sideways. I sent it back to the alignment shop and they told me their machine says everything is perfect. This may be true of adjustable parts but the whole right side frame rail is shifted back 5/16 of an inch and the front axle is sitting about 3/4 of an inch too far to the left. I don't want to accept it this way but I just wanted to see if maybe I am just being too picky. Would you accept this truck? My edited alignment sheet is also attached I converted some of the angles from degrees to fractions and took some measurements from tires to running boards and from bumper to bed also.
I would force the issue on the frame damage although without an independent evaluation from a separate frame shop you trust it could be hard to fight back if you’ve already agreed to the settlement. I would encourage you to keep pushing back though because I couldn’t live with it myself.
Around here I have never heard of a specialty frame shop. Most of our body shops have a frame machine. But I don't even know if I would want a pulled frame unless they will guarantee that it will be able to pull 27000 lbs for the life of the vehicle. I am sending it back to the body shop and will let them add a supplement to the insurance company and I will be pushing for a new frame. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't being unreasonable since the alignment specs are within tolerances.
It's going to take some pulling to get that back in line. Your frame is diamond shaped, meaning one side is pushed back from the other, in your case the passenger side, and the front section is pushed left. You have two different things that need addressing.
A good, usually big, body shop will have a laser frame machine that can get the frame right, if it's possible to get it right. I know some Gerber shops have this equipment. There are three Gerber shops in Pa, whether they have the good equipment or not I don't know. Call the bigger shops in your area and ask if they have laser frame alignment.
The dog tracking and frame damage should have been caught by the shop that repaired your truck.
So july 20th someone decided they didn't have to look when pulling off the shoulder of a road into a 55 mph highway and I was only about 30 ft away when he entered my lane. I was hit mostly in the bumper fender right front wheel and my camper. The body shop fixed the body and sent it to an alignment shop which replaced the front axle, the spindle and sent it back to me saying it was good. I ended up having my wife drive it in front of me in my other car and just as I figured it drives down the road sideways. I sent it back to the alignment shop and they told me their machine says everything is perfect. This may be true of adjustable parts but the whole right side frame rail is shifted back 5/16 of an inch and the front axle is sitting about 3/4 of an inch too far to the left. I don't want to accept it this way but I just wanted to see if maybe I am just being too picky. Would you accept this truck? My edited alignment sheet is also attached I converted some of the angles from degrees to fractions and took some measurements from tires to running boards and from bumper to bed also.
Too bad that, just for fun, you couldn’t take a brand new truck there and see how much discrepancy there would be with it. Personally, I think you would be surprised.
But, good luck getting things back to your expectations.
Too bad that, just for fun, you couldn’t take a brand new truck there and see how much discrepancy there would be with it. Personally, I think you would be surprised.
But, good luck getting things back to your expectations.
I just had my truck in for death wobble in march and they have the alignment on file. My truck had no setback on the front axle and the thrust angle was in the low single digits when it was there so I am telling the insurance company those are the specs that I want it returned to. I know build quality can be crap but I also know my truck used to go down the road straight.
Quick way to see if your frame has diamonded is see if the cab to bed gap is the same on both sides. If not frame is bent.
I know the frame is diamonded, It shows it on the alignment sheet and also my bumper to bed measurements are different from side to side, same with my tire to running board measurements. My question is more of what is the tolerance we should give? Is a 5/16" rack too much or not enough to worry about? I also don't want to give up this fight too early or the insurance company will think I'm a pushover when it comes to accepting my camper when that's done. I will be very picky when picking that thing up because of how crappy they are made to begin with, much less once they have been hit.
I've always thought that the insurance should "make you whole". If you chose to sell your truck today, then no matter how good the functional repairs, you will lose money compared to a hypothetical identical truck that pointed straight.
Way back when my pickup frame got diamonded, the guy straightening it said Ford allowed 1/4" tolerance. He also said tolerance is for lazy people. It's either exact to specs, or it's wrong. I helped him straighten it, and we didn't quit until it measured exact.
I wouldn't accept your truck in the condition it's in. It's not right, and any good trade appraiser will notice it right away, if and when you decide to trade it.
Frame is bent. Anyone who knows what they’re doing with a frame rack should be able to straighten it. Don’t worry about frame strength going forward, it will be fine.
Bring it up with your insurance company not the other person's who caused the accident. Your insurance company is supposed to represent you and make sure the other person's insurance company properly repairs your truck. If you have frame damage your trucks structural integrity is likely compromised and you are at higher risk of something failing and putting you and other motorists in danger. Call your insurance agent Monday morning and push the issue!! Good Luck!
Bring it up with your insurance company not the other person's who caused the accident. Your insurance company is supposed to represent you and make sure the other person's insurance company properly repairs your truck. If you have frame damage your trucks structural integrity is likely compromised and you are at higher risk of something failing and putting you and other motorists in danger. Call your insurance agent Monday morning and push the issue!! Good Luck!
I am already using mine which was a mistake. Their coverages may not have been enough to cover the bikes the rack the truck and the camper so in talking with their adjuster who was awesome and wanted to help we decided it was better to go with mine and subrogate the claim. My insurance company cares more about the other companies money than they care about me and is fighting me tooth and nail this whole claim so far.
I am already using mine which was a mistake. Their coverages may not have been enough to cover the bikes the rack the truck and the camper so in talking with their adjuster who was awesome and wanted to help we decided it was better to go with mine and subrogate the claim. My insurance company cares more about the other companies money than they care about me and is fighting me tooth and nail this whole claim so far.
I am sorry to hear that! This is why so many people dont like insurance companies. I am in the insurance business and this type of thing makes me sick. You may end up having to go up the ladder to someone in corporate. Whatever you do dont stop pushing for what is right!!
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