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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 12:13 PM
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Yes, W/M is injected post CAC on our trucks. Pretty simple really. I would only use enough methanol to prevent freezing in your climate. Straight water is fine for summer. We aren’t looking to add power with this - just the cleaning effects.

Check out the Snow kits and let me know if you want to DIY a system. I’d imagine there’s stuff on the university of yourtube by now as well.
This is a great idea. The generator diesel especially will benefit. I don’t have to deal with it for awhile though as I’m sheltering from the Virus storm in a little fishing village on the Mexican coast. Next spring I think is ETA.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimv8
This is a great idea. The generator diesel especially will benefit. I don’t have to deal with it for awhile though as I’m sheltering from the Virus storm in a little fishing village on the Mexican coast. Next spring I think is ETA.
Do you have room for me and a couple of friendly dogs there????
 
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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 11:01 PM
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SkiSkyJason How do you deal with Algae? I was working at a truck shop and a co-worker brought in a fire truck (he was a volunteer firefighter). The truck was brand new and on its first call alarm bells started going off for low fuel pressure. He removed the fuel filters and they were full of algae. He ended up draining and flushing the fuel tank and lines. It turned out the department was buying fuel from a local trucking company. The trucking company ran bio-diesel in the summer months because the bio-fuel would gel too bad in the cold (we are in Canada). The combination of the warm fire station and the low frequency of use allowed the algae to grow. The trucking company likely didn't have this trouble as they run their trucks daily.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 07:23 AM
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Algae only grows in water. No water = no ecosystem.

Condensation can form in tanks that are partially full, especially in fuel systems that return warm fuel to tank. At night, when the temperature decreases and the Rh goes up, the pressure of fuel and Air in the tank is reduced and moisture laden air is drawn in.

Keeping tanks full will mitigate condensation in fuel. It’s always a good idea to store vehicles with a FULL tank for this reason.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 07:37 AM
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Interesting, being a fire truck I'm nearly 100% sure it was always parked with a full tank.

So there must have been some water in the bio-fuel? We didn't notice any water in the system so it must have stayed in suspension in the fuel

Unless it wasn't algae but something else? Can bio-fuel rot? I remember there were dark blobs that were fairly thick in the fuel filter he showed me. I remember thinking they looked more grey/black than green like the algae I get in our pool.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 89bII4x2
Interesting, being a fire truck I'm nearly 100% sure it was always parked with a full tank.

So there must have been some water in the bio-fuel? We didn't notice any water in the system so it must have stayed in suspension in the fuel

Unless it wasn't algae but something else? Can bio-fuel rot? I remember there were dark blobs that were fairly thick in the fuel filter he showed me. I remember thinking they looked more grey/black than green like the algae I get in our pool.
THAT sounds more like glycerin which would be from poorly reacted biodiesel.

If the biodiesel is not fully reacted, it can continue to react after it goes in the tank and more glycerin ‘falls out’. The glycerin is thick and gooey stuff and jacks filters up in a hurry.

I STRONGLY recommend against using any blend of biodiesel in an unfrequently used vehicle.

In a nutshell, NO ‘B99’ meets the ASTM standards at the pump. Besides that, commercial producers only have to demonstrate an occasional batch meets the standard at the time of production. In other words, fuel quality is all over the map, but is always bad to worse from commercial producers. A home brewer tends to have much higher QC and generally less storage time. This is most critical because the shelf life of bio-d is a fraction of diesel.

on edit: B5-B20 is much more forgiving, but can still be problematic. I stopped making bio-d several years ago. It’s not worth the trouble to me. Straight VO is much, much easier and safer.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 08:33 AM
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That makes perfect sense, I'm not sure what percentage bio-fuel this was but we assumed it was B100. The carrier they were buying fuel from has 100-200 power units at that terminal. I can't imagine the chaos if bad fuel went through the fleet. Most of their trucks would burn it quickly enough but any that were down for maintenance or sitting for any reason would be affected. It would be a nightmare for their shop.

The fire department was unaware that bio-fuel was being used until this incident. This was the first call for this truck after delivery and I understand it was one week or more sitting. It is not a very big town so they don't get a lot of calls. Their rescue truck gets called out much more often so it didn't have troubles yet at that time. I think they only have the two trucks. After this they found a fuel supplier that guaranteed them pure diesel. They didn't even trust pump diesel because of the mandated bio-fuel content.

Everyone is just glad that the truck was able to get to the call and didn't die on the road.
 
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