Intake manifold gasket fix suggestions needed
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Intake manifold gasket fix suggestions needed
I have installed the correct Felpro gasket set twice and the end pieces have leaked. Now I am doing it for a third time and would like it to work this time. These end pieces fit perfectly and have three tabs on the bottom that go into holes in the block where they mount. Felpro says to put a small dab of RTV on the ends of these where they meet the intake gaskets. They say do not use RTV anywhere else on these end pieces. I have made sure they did not shift or move when installing the intake, but they are still leaking. There are no intake bolts in the middle of the intake that would press down on these. There are two bolts on the end of the intake where the end gasket meets the intake gasket. Actually they are studs on the ends that hold the intake gasket and use a nut to torque along with the other bolts along the intake. The studs and nuts are on each side and front and back. My leaks are in the front.
I know some have said they use a 3/8" bead of RTV instead of the gasket. Others swear by the cork gaskets that some manufactures use. I would like to avoid having to do this again so I am looking for a method that works either with the Felpro (which I have a new set of) or some other way to prevent leaks. Thanks for suggestions. Sandy
Also can anyone with a 87-91 460 motor tell me what vacuum lines go to the vac tree in the back of the intake. There are three connections on the tree.
Bottom side with three tabs
Top side of gasket
I know some have said they use a 3/8" bead of RTV instead of the gasket. Others swear by the cork gaskets that some manufactures use. I would like to avoid having to do this again so I am looking for a method that works either with the Felpro (which I have a new set of) or some other way to prevent leaks. Thanks for suggestions. Sandy
Also can anyone with a 87-91 460 motor tell me what vacuum lines go to the vac tree in the back of the intake. There are three connections on the tree.
Bottom side with three tabs
Top side of gasket
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I have installed the correct Felpro gasket set twice and the end pieces have leaked. Now I am doing it for a third time and would like it to work this time. These end pieces fit perfectly and have three tabs on the bottom that go into holes in the block where they mount. Felpro says to put a small dab of RTV on the ends of these where they meet the intake gaskets. They say do not use RTV anywhere else on these end pieces. I have made sure they did not shift or move when installing the intake, but they are still leaking. There are no intake bolts in the middle of the intake that would press down on these. There are two bolts on the end of the intake where the end gasket meets the intake gasket. Actually they are studs on the ends that hold the intake gasket and use a nut to torque along with the other bolts along the intake. The studs and nuts are on each side and front and back. My leaks are in the front.
I know some have said they use a 3/8" bead of RTV instead of the gasket. Others swear by the cork gaskets that some manufactures use. I would like to avoid having to do this again so I am looking for a method that works either with the Felpro (which I have a new set of) or some other way to prevent leaks. Thanks for suggestions. Sandy
Also can anyone with a 87-91 460 motor tell me what vacuum lines go to the vac tree in the back of the intake. There are three connections on the tree.
Bottom side with three tabs
Top side of gasket
I know some have said they use a 3/8" bead of RTV instead of the gasket. Others swear by the cork gaskets that some manufactures use. I would like to avoid having to do this again so I am looking for a method that works either with the Felpro (which I have a new set of) or some other way to prevent leaks. Thanks for suggestions. Sandy
Also can anyone with a 87-91 460 motor tell me what vacuum lines go to the vac tree in the back of the intake. There are three connections on the tree.
Bottom side with three tabs
Top side of gasket
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I installed new intake, and instructions said not to use the rubber end seals, due to possible distortion of mating surfaces.
Might be intake specific.
Eliminate the end seals. Instead, use RTV silicone sealers designed for use with O2 sensors.
Apply a bead of sealant approximately 1/4” high across the front and rear block end seal surfaces, overlapping the intake gasket at the four corners.
This method eliminates end seal slippage and deterioration.
Apply a bead of sealant approximately 1/4” high across the front and rear block end seal surfaces, overlapping the intake gasket at the four corners.
This method eliminates end seal slippage and deterioration.
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I prefer the mega grey rtv. If you want to spend a little more, go to a gm dealership parts department and see if they still sell GMS rtv. It's the generals go to for leaky pan seals that they cant solve. And it freaking works.
We used it to seal the intake ends on our turbo 460 race engine, and when the waste gate failed and the boost went into kills mode it didn't leak. The pan gasket blew along with 4 pistons, the valve cover gaskets and rear and front crank seals. The GMS didnt budge.
We used it to seal the intake ends on our turbo 460 race engine, and when the waste gate failed and the boost went into kills mode it didn't leak. The pan gasket blew along with 4 pistons, the valve cover gaskets and rear and front crank seals. The GMS didnt budge.
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I second this.
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I'm with the others on this. I used the rubber gaskets and they leaked. I used the "Right Stuff" and zero leaks. And it will take a lot to separate it when done.
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I make 4 studs for each corner. Hang the manifold gaskets, then set the manifold down & eyeball the actual space at the china wall.
Then lay a bead of appropriate thickness just touching the manifold gaskets, LET SET/SKIN for at least 10 minuets.
Then set manifold down square & ever so lightly press down (don't squash) so that the everything touches evenly. Let set again for another 10 minuets.
Then tighten with correct torque sequence.
It's worked for me multiple times.
Then lay a bead of appropriate thickness just touching the manifold gaskets, LET SET/SKIN for at least 10 minuets.
Then set manifold down square & ever so lightly press down (don't squash) so that the everything touches evenly. Let set again for another 10 minuets.
Then tighten with correct torque sequence.
It's worked for me multiple times.
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@sandymane I used Felpro gaskets for the parts that go into the heads- those use zero RTV.
For the front and back of the intake I used cork gaskets and slathered RTV like crazy, and it works great and has zero problems.
For the front and back of the intake I used cork gaskets and slathered RTV like crazy, and it works great and has zero problems.