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Old Aug 25, 2020 | 12:50 PM
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You'll be impressed with the improvement you get from the upgrade harness. For giggles, install the harness before you install the LED lights. Compare your incandescent headlights before and after. That $40 goes a long way.
do you know were I can buy a good set of halos for my truck?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2020 | 12:57 PM
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where are good places to buy the halos
These are DOT legal: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/u...85?seid=srese1
I like LEDs myself but don't know who has the best set of LED halos. Maybe order some LED halos from the big box stores or Amazon so you can return them if they don't work well.

I also do not know if there is much benefit to replacing the headlight harness if you go LED. They draw much less current than halogen.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2020 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
The Morimoto 2.0 led lights are some of the nicest in the category and have a very defined cut off and DOT approval. I have them on my 68.
Di you know if they are made in the US? That was one reason I went with trucklites. Affordable and us made. I know the projector type have a better pattern though.
 
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X2 on the Jeff's Bronco Graveyard harness, truly plug and play. And that one might come with the relay fuse that lets you run high and low beams on together when on high. Or take the fuse out and high is high and low is low. At least I seem to remember it that way.

There are a gazillion options on Amazon, follow the advice on lights mentioned from the folks on here and you will be better off. At least I seem to remember it that way.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2020 | 04:03 PM
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I'd have to say that (even though I did not look up that particular harness) Painless does not use headlight relays in most of the harnesses for our trucks, or the universal ones.
And even though no relays, I can almost guarantee that your headlights will be brighter with the new harness than with the old. Either it's a thing about the difference between 30 year old wiring and new wiring (the span between my first harness swap), or something in the way the new harnesses are routed.
I say that because I've replaced many harnesses with Centech and Painless (universal and vehicle specific) and the new harness do a great job of getting the power to the lights. But honestly, even with that fact I still put relays in my headlight circuits. Most modern vehicles do too, but for some reason Ford was very reluctant. Even my '93 did not use headlight relays, while Toyota trucks on the other hand (you know, the ones with the blindingly bright lights) have used relays since at least the mid-'70's. In fact that's where I got my idea to make my own relay system for my '71 Bronco back in about '82 if I remember.
That was not long after the '79 Toyota 4wd trucks were released and super popular around here with their sickeningly bright and poorly aimed and focused headlights. Digging into the electrical system of my '81 2wd Toyota gave me a good old Ford Light bulb moment.

So I agree with all of the above that the relay upgrade is a great idea. I just don't think you'll notice a big difference with the Painless harness installed. Not near as much at least, as it would be with the original wiring.

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Old Aug 25, 2020 | 04:06 PM
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The biggest pain with upgrading out old headlights to new, and probably why you started this thread, is the depth of some lamps. They're deeper than our housings/buckets and even some Jeep lights require modification. I can't say for the '72 and older vs the '73 and later, but it's a thing that we run into a lot.
Some people have no trouble clearancing the bucket for the new deeper lamp, but many would rather just throw it in and be done. If you can find specs on the lamps you're looking at, check their depth vs your housing.

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Old Aug 25, 2020 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
X2 on the Jeff's Bronco Graveyard harness, truly plug and play. And that one might come with the relay fuse that lets you run high and low beams on together when on high. Or take the fuse out and high is high and low is low. At least I seem to remember it that way.

There are a gazillion options on Amazon, follow the advice on lights mentioned from the folks on here and you will be better off. At least I seem to remember it that way.
All the LED projector headlights I've seen, burn all LED's when on bright. Now don't be casting no voodoo hex on me, Rich.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2020 | 04:11 PM
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I said at least I remember it that way. Lol
And here is a place to get that harness in case other sources are out of stock.
https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/produc..._lighting_78yr
I bet you can find some LED/HID options.
https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/catego..._lighting_78yr

https://www.lmctruck.com/1973-79-for...dlight-harness
Yes it is a chebby so bar thru it to "see the light"
 
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Thanks Rich.
For the truth-in-advertising part, those are sized primarily for the Early Broncos (well more of a semi-universal), but they are left purposefully long and I know some have installed them successfully in full-size trucks. But I have no pictures or documentation showing how they were routed.
I've been wanting to try a set myself, and have one here at the house in fact. If I get the chance I'll lay it out on my '79 to see what I think about it.

Already have relays on that truck, but it was a home-made setup from the early '90's.

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I know for a fact that I got a harness that had an option to leave a fuze in that keep both headlights on when put the high beam on.
 
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You will want to make sure they are DOT approved or you can receive a ticket. Even worse, you could be lumped in with the mall crawler jeeps that blind people with cheap headlights that do not light up the road well but do blind oncoming traffic...
I hate those @#$%^&s. I wish I carried a hand mirror so I could dish it back at them.
 
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Originally Posted by Lrrr-RulerOfOmicronP
Di you know if they are made in the US? That was one reason I went with trucklites. Affordable and us made. I know the projector type have a better pattern though.
They are not made in the US, made in Japan.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2020 | 10:51 AM
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I'd have to say that (even though I did not look up that particular harness) Painless does not use headlight relays in most of the harnesses for our trucks, or the universal ones.
And even though no relays, I can almost guarantee that your headlights will be brighter with the new harness than with the old. Either it's a thing about the difference between 30 year old wiring and new wiring (the span between my first harness swap),
Agreed. There is something to be said about using actual 12ga wire to your headlights. Don't forget the importance of a good ground, also. When I installed my harness, I upgraded the ground system in that all lights had grounding stations near them and these were supplied directly with a 10ga wire from the battery. Stock lights are very bright, with no relays needed. That being said, I do miss the headlights my Jeep had. They were Sylvania blues and were clear and bright. I didn't need to use high beams ever when I had them. And they were adjusted correctly so that I wouldn't irritate other drivers. Hate seeing that when I'm on the road.
 
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