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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 02:16 PM
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Remove a leaf for smooth ride?

I test drove 6 trucks last year and the fords both rode the worst with obvious tail hop.
I'd hate to buy a ram based on ride and comfort alone when I trust fords drivetrains so let me bring up an idea to help Ford's ride other than the mandatory shock swap.

I only see leaf 1 connected to the truck. Leaf 2 is floating in the middle. Leaf 3 is the overload and doesn't appear in play unloaded.
I tow and carry nothing. What if I added ladder bars to locate the axle and control axle warp and remove leaf 2 for a softer ride and rear leveling?
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 08:09 PM
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Look into a set of Deaver springs. They will build them the way you want. They charge for it, but most of their customers are happy.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 08:01 AM
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Another option is to buy a set of the lightest rear spring packs that Ford offers for the F150.
They are not all the same. I don't know if the Ford spring would be more or less expensive than Deaver...or which would ride better.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 1jonathan1994
I test drove 6 trucks last year and the fords both rode the worst with obvious tail hop.
I'd hate to buy a ram based on ride and comfort alone when I trust fords drivetrains so let me bring up an idea to help Ford's ride other than the mandatory shock swap.

I only see leaf 1 connected to the truck. Leaf 2 is floating in the middle. Leaf 3 is the overload and doesn't appear in play unloaded.
I tow and carry nothing. What if I added ladder bars to locate the axle and control axle warp and remove leaf 2 for a softer ride and rear leveling?
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I'm not sure spring stiffness is the problem. Most everyone reports a significant improvement with different shocks, which is where I would start.

Adding ladder bars may exacerbate the problem as well because you would be increasing unsprung weight.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 08:53 AM
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Buy the Ford and change the rear shocks,big improvement in ride and a-lot cheaper than replacing front end parts on the Ram every 50k miles.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 10:33 AM
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I would check the tire pressure, then address rear shocks (as mentioned) and consider a rear anti-sway bar. There is none from the factory and some other brands come with one stock.

Hellwig makes a kit that I've been eyeing for a while. Those that install report vastly improved stability.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1jonathan1994
I tow and carry nothing.
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Based on this statement I guess I will ask the obvious(to me) question...Why are you looking to buy a truck if your biggest complaint is the ride quality and you don't tow or carry anything? I mean I love my truck, but I really only drive it and use it when I need it. When I am not hauling or towing anything I drive one of my other vehicles. Suum cuique.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lone Wolff
Based on this statement I guess I will ask the obvious(to me) question...Why are you looking to buy a truck if your biggest complaint is the ride quality and you don't tow or carry anything? I mean I love my truck, but I really only drive it and use it when I need it. When I am not hauling or towing anything I drive one of my other vehicles. Suum cuique.
I don't tow or haul anything everyday and my truck is my daily driver. Don't know about you or the OP but one truck/car payment is enough for me. But I do agree. If the OP doesn't need a truck get a SUV and a trailer.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 01:36 PM
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Because I often need to carry 5ft long gun cases that would take up the entire rear seat.
occasionally lumber.
Occasionally dead dear.
Occasional lawn mower.
dogs.
None of which is heavy.... some won't fit in a suburban.... but a Ridgeline is so...even though it fits the bill.
 
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What tires are on your truck and what air pressure? I think the F150 is one of the better riding trucks on the road. The 1/2 ton Ram probably rides the best though. Like others have said here, replace the rear shocks. Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks are probably the best for ride comfort. I would not remove a leaf as these trucks sag a bit with just a few hundred poi ds near the tailgate or on the hitch. However, weight does make it ride much better. You can put a tool box on the truck or maybe a couple of sand bags or something similar behind each rear wheel near the tailgate. They would be easy to remove if needed. A heavy aftermarket rear bumper, like a Ranch Hand, can improve the ride too.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 09:57 PM
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you want a truck, but dont want it to ride like a truck?

May I suggest you buy a honda ridgeline, its a car with a bed you may like.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 10:20 AM
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Has anybody tried one of the Sulastic units?

https://www.sulastic.com/XLT%204dr%2...206cyl%206A)-2
 
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CJM8515
you want a truck, but dont want it to ride like a truck?

May I suggest you buy a honda ridgeline, its a car with a bed you may like.
There is nothing wrong with a nice riding truck, as long as it can still haul as much as the rough riding truck. Did you ever ride in an old semi-tractor with torsion springs? They sucked to drive, and were not any more capable than the newer air ride trucks.

Dodge (Ram) and Chevy are currently kicking Ford's *** in ride quality. I drive and ride frequently in all 3 brands, and it's not even close. I think part of it is the aluminum body. These are really light trucks, and a light pickup never rides very good. Ford's shock valving sucks, too. I replaced my rear shocks with Rancho adjustable shocks. It helped, but still doesn't ride as nice as a new Ram or Chevy.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 07:34 PM
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There is nothing wrong with a nice riding truck, as long as it can still haul as much as the rough riding truck. Did you ever ride in an old semi-tractor with torsion springs? They sucked to drive, and were not any more capable than the newer air ride trucks.

Dodge (Ram) and Chevy are currently kicking Ford's *** in ride quality. I drive and ride frequently in all 3 brands, and it's not even close. I think part of it is the aluminum body. These are really light trucks, and a light pickup never rides very good. Ford's shock valving sucks, too. I replaced my rear shocks with Rancho adjustable shocks. It helped, but still doesn't ride as nice as a new Ram or Chevy.
I had a GM truck, no thank you-never again unless its a 3/4 ton (and i drove them extensively and found them fine). My 1/2 ton GM truck drove like a old buick, incredibly poor handling, tons of body roll. very soft suspension, poor steering feel and response (its insanely over sensitive) and was very disappointing in power delivery and shifting. But ill admit it was soft riding-rode like a caddy. But boat like handling. The F150 handles way better imho, handles a load better (250lbs in the bed made the GMC sag BAD and I had the towing and offroad packages), drives better and the build quality is better imho. Now, this was a 13 GMC sierra fully loaded may I add. I fixed about 80% of the issues by changing the shocks, swaybars, tuner, pedal commander and a host of other upgrades to make it finally be able to handle truck stuff.

People want a truck that drives like a car, F150 aint the truck for them. Fords never ride soft, owned and driven plenty.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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I agree with CJM above. My old 07 fully loaded Sierra was soft as well. My XLT rides like, well, a truck. I feel every little bump, pavement separation, expansion joint, etc. It's a damn truck. And it handles way better than the Sierra. I do plan on replacing the rear shocks. Haven't quite decided on which brand yet.
 
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