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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 06:50 PM
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2001, Intermittent Starting Issue

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We have a 2001 F-53 chassis with a 6.8L, for a 2002 motorhome. We have seemed too developed an intermittent starting issue. When the key is turned to start, everything comes on the dash, lights, etc, but the engine does not crank over. I do not even hear a click. The battery is relatively new with a great charge, clean posts, cables are fine, starter relay and starter are new. If it would do this again, I could check voltage at the relay from the ignition switch, but, as I mentioned, it is very intermittent and the intervals are spaced far apart. Would I be correct in guessing that the ignition switch could be failing?
Thank you for your input and time,
Daniel
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 06:12 AM
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What finally gets it to start? Just waiting, or by trying the key a few times?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
What finally gets it to start? Just waiting, or by trying the key a few times?
The first time this happened, we were parked in a poor spot to leave the coach parked. I cycled the key numerous times and nothing. Then replaced the start relay, nothing, then the starter, which worked for several days. Yesterday, it happened again, cycling the key numerous times, it finally started and has been fine since.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 10:46 AM
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When you say relay, do you mean the big one on the passenger fenderwell, that some would call a "solenoid"? Certain years of trucks had them, and some did not. My 2001 did.

I think there is a relay somewhere before that solenoid which also may be faulty.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 01:41 PM
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When I mention the starter relay, that is in the passenger wheel well area. The solenoid is part of the starter unit itself. I hope I am correct with the naming of these. Bother the relay and starter, with the solenoid were replaced.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 04:08 PM
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You are correct in those terms, but some people call that big thing on the wheel well a "solenoid".

I still think there is a relay before that big relay. Hang on...
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 04:16 PM
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I just realized, there is no other relay, BUT - there is the DTRS - The transmission range sensor. Hmm... jiggle the handle next time



 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 04:18 PM
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More to the point, the previous was F-Superduty, this one is F-53 (motorhome):



 
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Thanks Krewat. With this schematic I felt confident on the switch so I replaced it last night and thus far no issues.. The coach was acting up before the replacement so it appears as if this did fix it.
Thanks again to all for your input.
Daniel.
 
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And thank YOU for reporting back

If it ever happens again, I'd concentrate on the transmission shifter sensor (DTRS). Both the sensor, and it's connector.

Enjoy !
 
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Thank you Krewat - we'll do..
 
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