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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 09:22 PM
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Transmission temperature while towing

I have a 2019 F350 with the 6.7 PowerStroke. We pull a fifth wheel trailer which weighs in under 16K.
Towing through Colorado and Wyoming this week and I noticed something I've never seen before. The transmission temperature gauge normally rides to just the left edge of the symbol in the gauge. Same as the engine coolant.
Towing through the hills which are up and down, now I see numbers displayed which of course would be the actual temperature reading. The speed is sixty to sixty five and sometimes a little more. Lower climbing grades.
Starts reading at 210 and one time 230. The scale increased only a little so it never got near the red mark at the right end. Back on level ground the temperature decreases and can get back down to 210.
Likewise, sometimes the engine coolant temp. will display a number too.
Slow speed driving or extended driving on relatively level ground, the temp number does not display

My thinking is that of course the temperature is going to increase due to the load. My question is are those numbers (210 to 220 something) about normal for the towing conditions?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by danwdooley
I have a 2019 F350 with the 6.7 PowerStroke. We pull a fifth wheel trailer which weighs in under 16K.
Towing through Colorado and Wyoming this week and I noticed something I've never seen before. The transmission temperature gauge normally rides to just the left edge of the symbol in the gauge. Same as the engine coolant.
Towing through the hills which are up and down, now I see numbers displayed which of course would be the actual temperature reading. The speed is sixty to sixty five and sometimes a little more. Lower climbing grades.
Starts reading at 210 and one time 230. The scale increased only a little so it never got near the red mark at the right end. Back on level ground the temperature decreases and can get back down to 210.
Likewise, sometimes the engine coolant temp. will display a number too.
Slow speed driving or extended driving on relatively level ground, the temp number does not display

My thinking is that of course the temperature is going to increase due to the load. My question is are those numbers (210 to 220 something) about normal for the towing conditions?
I have a 19 dually as well. Pull 16k pound horse trailer. When it’s cool outside I have seen 220s. When it’s 90 plus air temp I’ve seen 230s. Always cools down so haven’t worried. I think your numbers are normal.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Flitastic
I have a 19 dually as well. Pull 16k pound horse trailer. When it’s cool outside I have seen 220s. When it’s 90 plus air temp I’ve seen 230s. Always cools down so haven’t worried. I think your numbers are normal.
Great! I appreciate the confirmation of my thoughts that the numbers were normal. It did always cool down..
 
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 04:57 AM
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The transmission has a thermostat that controls the cooling. You are not always using the cooler during normal operation. This is also why if you use a machine to flush the transmission fluid, it needs to be a machine capable of heating the fluid.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 12:08 PM
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normal temps. 220F or so the clutch fan engages on high for me.

Tranny temps around 210-215 most of the time.

Oil temp can reach as high as 248F for me. All normal as it cools down after you crest the grade.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by danwdooley
I have a 2019 F350 with the 6.7 PowerStroke. We pull a fifth wheel trailer which weighs in under 16K.
Towing through Colorado and Wyoming this week and I noticed something I've never seen before. The transmission temperature gauge normally rides to just the left edge of the symbol in the gauge. Same as the engine coolant.
Towing through the hills which are up and down, now I see numbers displayed which of course would be the actual temperature reading. The speed is sixty to sixty five and sometimes a little more. Lower climbing grades.
Starts reading at 210 and one time 230. The scale increased only a little so it never got near the red mark at the right end. Back on level ground the temperature decreases and can get back down to 210.
Likewise, sometimes the engine coolant temp. will display a number too.
Slow speed driving or extended driving on relatively level ground, the temp number does not display

My thinking is that of course the temperature is going to increase due to the load. My question is are those numbers (210 to 220 something) about normal for the towing conditions?
I have a 2019 and I have never seen it get above 210 stock and with this deep pan I wasted money on


 
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Old Aug 10, 2020 | 03:38 PM
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Your transmission temps sound normal. I live in Colorado and tow a 5th wheel about the same weight as yours. The transmission in the current trucks run hotter than previous ones. My 2006 F350 6.0 transmission ran much cooler. BTW, if you're gonna be towing, get the Torque Pro app or other similar app to watch your temps. You'll need a bluetooth adapter to link to the truck. The factory gauges are not very accurate and will only tell you something is wrong when it's too late. My 2006 factory gauges were like that and I suspect my 2019 gauges are no better.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 11:45 AM
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Saw as high as 234* for a few minutes the other day, but in all fairness it was about 102* outside and we have some moderate hills around here...



 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 07:19 AM
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210 is the max I have seen even on grades in the appalachain mountains but i don't tow very heavy (<10K)
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by maxum96
Your transmission temps sound normal. I live in Colorado and tow a 5th wheel about the same weight as yours. The transmission in the current trucks run hotter than previous ones. My 2006 F350 6.0 transmission ran much cooler. BTW, if you're gonna be towing, get the Torque Pro app or other similar app to watch your temps. You'll need a bluetooth adapter to link to the truck. The factory gauges are not very accurate and will only tell you somethings wrong when it's too late. My 2006 factory gauges were like that and I suspect my 2019 gauges are no better.
It doesn't matter whether the gauges or inaccurate or not, Ford has multiple safeguards in place to put the truck in limp mode or shut you down to prevent damage.

My '16 would throw a code for engine coolant temp when towing our fiver in Colorado. I learned to lock out 6th and sometimes 5th gear to make it run cooler. So far on the 2020 I haven't had this problem. I monitor with the Banks iDash
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
It doesn't matter whether the gauges or inaccurate or not, Ford has multiple safeguards in place to put the truck in limp mode or shut you down to prevent damage.

That may be, but I still want to know actual temps and not rely on crappy factory instruments. Being able to monitor your gauges and detect unusual changes can keep you from being put into limp mode or damage. On my 2006 6.0, my Scan Gauge aftermarket gauge showed the delta between my oil and water temps was increasing. I was able to determine I had a faulty oil cooler and changed it out before any damage occurred or the truck had a breakdown. The factory gauges would never had detected that until it was too late.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 08:18 PM
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As I said I use a iDash because I want to know but still not absolutely necessary...
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
As I said I use a iDash because I want to know but still not absolutely necessary...

I'll agree with that statement. But I would strongly recommend aftermarket instrumentation to anyone towing a substantial amount of weight.
 
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Originally Posted by maxum96
I'll agree with that statement. But I would strongly recommend aftermarket instrumentation to anyway towing a substantial amount of weight.
many choices out there to monitor your temps I use the Idash too.From banks.

the delta between water and oil tiemps in the 6.7 are not a concern as before.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 10:18 AM
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230 is around the highest for me towing up steep grades with 15k fifth wheel in normal summer heat 80-100..... Im sure I could go higher but I lay off accelerator when I see it hit 230. With all the safeguards it has I shouldnt worry its just a mind f%&k for me when I see my monitor hit 230 and start flashing red.
 
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