Camper pkg adding to sticker payload?
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Camper pkg adding to sticker payload?
How many of you opt'd for the camper pkg and does adding it increase the payload rating on the door sticker?
On a 4x4 DRW it seems to only bump up the front springs (adds rear sway only for the SRW)
I'm concerned that it's going to make the ride too harsh for daily driving, unloaded.
Thoughts? Would I be better off trying with out adding the camp pkg. and if feel needed, add after market Torklift products?
Thanks!
On a 4x4 DRW it seems to only bump up the front springs (adds rear sway only for the SRW)
I'm concerned that it's going to make the ride too harsh for daily driving, unloaded.
Thoughts? Would I be better off trying with out adding the camp pkg. and if feel needed, add after market Torklift products?
Thanks!
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We opted for the factory camper package (rear stabilizer bar, +2 front spring rate increase on the 4x2, VIN-specific camper certification) for our 2017 F350 and again for our 2019 F350. The CP’s stiffer front springs increased the front GAWR, but did not increase the vehicle GVWRs or payloads.
In fact, one could argue that the payload is decreased by the weight of the CP components.
The DRW is fitted with a standard rear stabilizer bar.
Our F350 gas 4x2’s ride is a bit stiff when lightly loaded, TBH. I attribute this to the +2 front springs and that our truck — without the optional Diesel and 4x4 hardware — is something of a “lightweight”, yet the factory tire pressure recommendation is still 60F/80R.
One adjustment many of us make is to reduce tire pressure when running lightly loaded.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
In fact, one could argue that the payload is decreased by the weight of the CP components.
The DRW is fitted with a standard rear stabilizer bar.
Our F350 gas 4x2’s ride is a bit stiff when lightly loaded, TBH. I attribute this to the +2 front springs and that our truck — without the optional Diesel and 4x4 hardware — is something of a “lightweight”, yet the factory tire pressure recommendation is still 60F/80R.
One adjustment many of us make is to reduce tire pressure when running lightly loaded.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
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We opted for the factory camper package (rear stabilizer bar, +2 front spring rate increase on the 4x2, VIN-specific camper certification) for our 2017 F350 and again for our 2019 F350. The CP’s stiffer front springs increased the front GAWR, but did not increase the vehicle GVWRs or payloads.
In fact, one could argue that the payload is decreased by the weight of the CP components.
The DRW is fitted with a standard rear stabilizer bar.
Our F350 gas 4x2’s ride is a bit stiff when lightly loaded, TBH. I attribute this to the +2 front springs and that our truck — without the optional Diesel and 4x4 hardware — is something of a “lightweight”, yet the factory tire pressure recommendation is still 60F/80R.
One adjustment many of us make is to reduce tire pressure when running lightly loaded.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
In fact, one could argue that the payload is decreased by the weight of the CP components.
The DRW is fitted with a standard rear stabilizer bar.
Our F350 gas 4x2’s ride is a bit stiff when lightly loaded, TBH. I attribute this to the +2 front springs and that our truck — without the optional Diesel and 4x4 hardware — is something of a “lightweight”, yet the factory tire pressure recommendation is still 60F/80R.
One adjustment many of us make is to reduce tire pressure when running lightly loaded.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
I'll look at whether the $ is adjusted for the CP package on the DRW since it already comes with the rear sway.
Hadn't considered that the extras come with a weight penalty. Good to know.
As well, going from my ol' 98 to a modern truck, the extra stiffness may not be as noticeable for me given even just the seats are going to be a big upgrade. And I don't mind a bit more stiffness anyway. I do have Rancho 9000 adjustables on my 98 and drop the tire pressure. Also the front end on the 4x4's are different as well I believe.
Without doing a side by side test drive, I probably couldn't tell either. Squeaking out max payload was the consideration, so if it doesn't effect that, then may be moot. If handling gains huge improvements, that be a factor. But aftermarket could be added if it's noticeable.
So many considerations on such a big purchase really makes my Dyslexic head spin! But after my wife's illness and a couple close friends passing way too young, we feel it's worth the stretch to upgrade and be safe and comfortable and able to go where and when we want without worry.
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How many of you opt'd for the camper pkg and does adding it increase the payload rating on the door sticker?
On a 4x4 DRW it seems to only bump up the front springs (adds rear sway only for the SRW)
I'm concerned that it's going to make the ride too harsh for daily driving, unloaded.
Thoughts? Would I be better off trying with out adding the camp pkg. and if feel needed, add after market Torklift products?
Thanks!
On a 4x4 DRW it seems to only bump up the front springs (adds rear sway only for the SRW)
I'm concerned that it's going to make the ride too harsh for daily driving, unloaded.
Thoughts? Would I be better off trying with out adding the camp pkg. and if feel needed, add after market Torklift products?
Thanks!
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I have the camper/snow plow package. Doesn’t add any weight capacity to the sticker but does balance out the weight on the suspension. It also adds more stability when loaded.
Most of my trucks were daily driven and I just got used to any harsh ride. All the new trucks ride like Cadillacs compared to pre 2000 trucks even with upgrades.
The dealers think I’m crazy ordering with snow plow prep in the desert but I put heavy duty bumper with winch on and prefer the heavier springs.
Most of my trucks were daily driven and I just got used to any harsh ride. All the new trucks ride like Cadillacs compared to pre 2000 trucks even with upgrades.
The dealers think I’m crazy ordering with snow plow prep in the desert but I put heavy duty bumper with winch on and prefer the heavier springs.
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Doesn't the CP package include the plug, +2 springs, sway bar and a certification? We got the snow plow package that included the heavy springs. I believe the objective is higher GAWR since GVWR is a sliding scale. Our first TC purchase and now we are concerned about weight despite all the upgrades which include big wig sway bar, stable loads, air bags and now new tires and wheels rated at 4080 and 4500 respectively. Even now we are thinking a dually is the only truck capable for handling these weights. Would love to hear from someone that gets a little off road in a dually
Driving on two track roads will get your rear wheel holding all the weight on a single wheel, and at 3,100 pound capacity tire with up to 6,000 pounds on it is pushing your luck. If you drive over big rocks the same thing. When on a deep rutted road same problem. If the deep rutted road is wet and muddy you will ruin the tracks for others and you will probably get stuck. On slick wet clay roads the truck will float and get sideways sometimes. Mud will also pack between the wheels and will need to be taken out before driving on pavement because of balance issues.
I love the capacity of dual rear wheel truck but I’m the adventurous type and modify my rig accordingly. I can’t add weight capacity. I can modify to make it as safe as possible.
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Camper package does nothing to increase payload. The options chosen when ordering determine maximum payload.
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How many of you opt'd for the camper pkg and does adding it increase the payload rating on the door sticker?
On a 4x4 DRW it seems to only bump up the front springs (adds rear sway only for the SRW)
I'm concerned that it's going to make the ride too harsh for daily driving, unloaded.
Thoughts? Would I be better off trying with out adding the camp pkg. and if feel needed, add after market Torklift products?
Thanks!
On a 4x4 DRW it seems to only bump up the front springs (adds rear sway only for the SRW)
I'm concerned that it's going to make the ride too harsh for daily driving, unloaded.
Thoughts? Would I be better off trying with out adding the camp pkg. and if feel needed, add after market Torklift products?
Thanks!
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