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Everybody is sure avoiding the origional question of "Why does Chevy have more horsepower than Ford?" Its spun into why Fords engine is more durable than Chevys.
 
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Because General Motors tends to make engines with more displacement?


Point of fact however is that the cylinder head design that Chevrolet uses has, at least prior to the advent of the modular motors, been superior to Fords design.

Ford smallblocks are notoriously choked off in the exhaust department insofar as cylinder heads are concerned.

That said, I'd still prefer to stick to my Fords as they've proven themselves to be more reliable to me both as daily transportation as well as when using them to drag race.
 
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Chevy doesn't have more hp than Ford. Ford wins with the 5.4 vs 5.3, they win with the 6.8 vs. 8.1 and last I checked they were winning with the Powerstroke vs. the Duramax. I don't know about the 4.6 vs. 4.8 or any of the 6 cylinder engines, but Ford is definitely winning where it counts.
 
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Originally Posted by ga302p
The problems were fixed. They were fixed in late 02. Piston redesign took care of the problems. I have not to date seen one engine problem out of a 2003 and up Chevy. They still have their trade mark transmission, dif. transfer case, and electronic problems. They have the engines fixed.
No there not fixed. They still have it. Read pistonslap.com.Somebody with a 2004 8.1l has it with just a few thousand miles. I asked a question on a chevy forum if the 2004s were were CSK free. Several said no they werent. Whatever they did was not a permanent fix. Add to the list the list there famous or infamous fuel pumps that die an early death.
 
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Originally Posted by ga302p
Everybody is sure avoiding the origional question of "Why does Chevy have more horsepower than Ford?" Its spun into why Fords engine is more durable than Chevys.
Want a direct answer? Here it is. Ford doesn't need as much hp, they are already towing more, hauling more, getting better mileage and being more dependable. Why bother upping your power when you can already do more? Chevrolet needs to work on their efficiency, and they need to tell Dodge what they find when they figure it out.
 
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Well Ford has the engines that produce torque where its needed most on the low end. Horsepower means nothing unless you have low end torque. Take the 300 6 it only has what 165 hp. Looking at that number you would say oh that engine is a wimp. But the low end torque was awesome in that motor. Getting off the subject here the Dodge hemi has a high horsepower rating but low end torque suffers. When you get her wrapped up your fine but its starting out that gets you. One big reason the hemi fails miserably in the HD trucks. The Ford V-10 with low end torque would eat its lunch and spit it out. Sorry for getting of the subject here. Just making a point. Back to the thread.
 
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Old 07-25-2004, 10:58 PM
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No, 150ford, you didn't get off point. That's exactly the point. Ford has less hp because they don't need to be the leader in hp to be the leader in towing, hauling, and basically, trucks.
 
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Thanks Ford Lariat. Finally somebody agrees with me.
 
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i think people put way to much stock in the HP numbers the factorys put out. i'm sure they can tweak them anyway they want.
 
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150ford, I usually do agree with you.
 
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Originally Posted by 150ford
No there not fixed. They still have it. Read pistonslap.com.Somebody with a 2004 8.1l has it with just a few thousand miles. I asked a question on a chevy forum if the 2004s were were CSK free. Several said no they werent. Whatever they did was not a permanent fix. Add to the list the list there famous or infamous fuel pumps that die an early death.
I've read pistonslap.com. It also says that Ford has piston slap problems as well. I do not worry about what I have not seen. I personally have never seen a 2003, or 2004 Chevy with piston slap. My friend is a mechanic at the local G.M. dealer, and he has never seen a 03 or 04 with pisto slap. I have seen lots of Chevy's and Gmc. As far as that goes, I have seen a 2004 Ford police interceptor crown vic. with piston slap. The one I drive knocks for about 20 seconds on cold start, but I dont care. When it blows, well drop another engine in it. Until then, I could care less. Thats a small piston to be slapping.
 
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Originally Posted by bigsnag
Chevy doesn't have more hp than Ford. Ford wins with the 5.4 vs 5.3, they win with the 6.8 vs. 8.1 and last I checked they were winning with the Powerstroke vs. the Duramax. I don't know about the 4.6 vs. 4.8 or any of the 6 cylinder engines, but Ford is definitely winning where it counts.
Historically, Chevy has more h.p. than Ford. Not neccessarily true this model year, but 99% of the time Chevy has the higher h.p. engine.
 
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I can't believe Chevy would be letting a foreigner slap them around in the hp wars (the Titan), it seems out of character for them.
 
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Originally Posted by MW95F250
That was competent, maybe it was the reader who was confused. They make these claims while showing old/inaccurate numbers for the competition. Around here, they advertise the enhanced GMC numbers while still saying that Ford has 260hp, which is from last year's model, therefore not current factual information.
Thank you, theres the post that should have came earlier. Your last post had no facts in it. Anyway, I have not seen that commercial but thats pretty bad. I think that Ford, GM and Dodge all have pretty bad commercials, like the Ford one where the Ford is pulling a Dodge and a chevy that are in park to make rows in his field, or the Dodge one where one Dodge beats another Dodge. Those commercials have absolutely nothing to do with which truck has the most towing capability or the most torque, theyre just stupid.
 
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:38 PM
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I love all the going back and forth about Ford and chevy.. But need I remind everyone that it was chevy that had to build a FORD head to compete better in nascar.. One more thing I can say for sure.. In Arizona most all mines here use FORD trucks, over all of them.. I happen to catch someone in purchasing call a chevy dealer up and tell the person on the other end to come get all of his chevies, as he had FORDs on their way.. Every machanic I have ever talked to at the mines here say they would rather work on the ford. The one thing they all agreed to was it made no matter which brand it was they all wore the brakes out in about the same time.. From working in some of those open pit mines I can say they are hard on trucks.
 


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