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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 07:04 PM
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Decode please

Can someone decode this please. This is a truck for sale and to me it looks to be a hack job



 
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 10:14 PM
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First, confirm that the VIN on the tag matches the VIN on the frame. Make sure the tag matches the frame number.

So, based on my 1964 shop manual, you have an F-250 4x4 with a 262 cubic inch engine, made in Kansas City.

It has a 120 inch wheel base, was Chrome Yellow. It had a Warner T98-A transmission and a 4.56-5M rear axle.

Its GVW is 6800 pounds, the net horsepower is 135 at 3800 rpm, and it has a custom DSO that I can't decode.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 11:07 PM
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Special ordered out of Fargo.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 06:57 AM
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Here is what goes with the tag. Seems pretty hokey to me. I am not interested in it but it seems like there is a lot of things wrong with his statement. 40K asking price,
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1622471154648496/
 
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 08:54 AM
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Could be a former military truck. I can remember a lot of quad cab Ford and Dodge pickups in the mid 60's that were "follow me" trucks used to marshal aircraft to a parking spot then transport flight crews to billeting. We had a 13 man crew on the P3's so it would take 2 trips.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Weste
So, based on my 1964 shop manual, you have an F-250 4x4 with a 262 cubic inch engine, made in Kansas City.
You may want to take a peek at your manual again. C is 292 while B is 262. If your manual doesn't say that then it is wrong, but my 1964 shows the 292 as C so I suspect yours does, too.

It's a conversion to 4-door. You can see the rear door on the cab has exposed hinges. The bed has also been shortened in the typical fashion when the cab conversions are done. They either had to extend the frame or cut the bed down and that's how the bed typically would look since they almost always cut the bed down.

That looks like a restored version of this - although VIN is different so definitely not the same truck. The bed was bobbed slightly differently, too.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...t-greatly.html
 
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by skidoorulz
Here is what goes with the tag. Seems pretty hokey to me. I am not interested in it but it seems like there is a lot of things wrong with his statement. 40K asking price,
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1622471154648496/
To see what was written we would probably each need to join the Montana facebook group. I don't think we would all need to try to do that if you paste in what was written. Any chance you can do that?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 05:25 PM
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To see what was written we would probably each need to join the Montana facebook group. I don't think we would all need to try to do that if you paste in what was written. Any chance you can do that?
I will do that if I can.
 
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1964 F250 Crew, 4x4, short box. 292 four speed. Pearl white, rhino lined the floors and box bed. Light tint to Windows. This is a dealer ordered truck that went from Detroit to Toledo for the cab and box conversion and was picked up in Toledo by the one prior owner who garaged it its entire life. 89k miles. Located in Butte, Montana. Interested??? ask for more photos

The guy is asking 40K. Says it went from Detroit to Toledo for the conversion but the decode Weste did says it was built in Kansas City. Also it has a Custom Cab interior. Does the vin reflect Custom Cab?
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I was interpreting the engine code as a B, not a C. Bad eyesight.
 
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Originally Posted by skidoorulz
1964 F250 Crew, 4x4, short box. 292 four speed. Pearl white, rhino lined the floors and box bed. Light tint to Windows. This is a dealer ordered truck that went from Detroit to Toledo for the cab and box conversion and was picked up in Toledo by the one prior owner who garaged it its entire life. 89k miles. Located in Butte, Montana. Interested??? ask for more photos

The guy is asking 40K. Says it went from Detroit to Toledo for the conversion but the decode Weste did says it was built in Kansas City. Also it has a Custom Cab interior. Does the vin reflect Custom Cab?
Fishy
Yes, D81 is Custom Cab. Beige color upholstery in a Custom Cab.
 
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The first two digits of the DSO - 42 would be Fargo, North Dakota while if it were sold through the Chicago, Illinios sales office it would have been a 41.

Still, I believe this to be a period correct 1964 F250 4x4 that was originally converted to a crew cab back in the day - probably as part of the special order signified by the last 4 digits of the DSO. To me the truck overall seems legitimate. You can see in this advert from Crown how each truck has the same exposed hinges on the back doors. The beds shown were long beds that were cut down. No pics of the 4x4 with Styleside wrong bed but it does list available the 4x4 in the 120" wheelbase and the lower left pic is a 4x4 with Flareside long bed cut down. This seems to be a 1964 advertisement.


Crown was just one of a few that did this sort of conversion.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 08:10 AM
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The truck was built in Kansas City. The Guy says it left Detroit for Toledo for conversion. Detroit is 60 miles from Toledo. Kansas city is over 700 mile from Toledo. Would they build something truck it 700 miles to be converted and then truck it again to a dealer. Or would the order have gone to the Detroit factory and then trucked 60 miles for conversion and then to the dealer? I can't see Ford trucking it 700 miles. They were not that inefficient in my opinion. It just smells funny to me but maybe not. I wish he would have posted pictures under hood and underside. If it were mine I would find a right short styleside short box and stretch the frame to fit it. Or I would get a flareside box for it and stretch the frame to fit. That Box and how close the wheels are to the cab is just plain ugly
 
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