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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 08:53 AM
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1951 239, had battery checked and it was bad so replaced it. Now when I hit the starter button the fan turns but I do not hear the pistons going up and down. I checked the compression and get zero! If the fan turns that tells me that the crankshaft is indeed turning. What do you folks think, timing chain or gear broke? Any suggestions would be extremely helpful.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 09:07 AM
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Did this truck run before ? The starter turns the crankshaft which is connected to your rods and pistons so if its turning the pistons are moving . Battery hooked up backwards ? I'm not familiar with those starters as most wouldn't work backwards .
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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After I read your post I think had an LSD flashback trying to hear my pistons moving. I could see it in my mind....
Anyway, please describe the compression check procedure used.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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No compression on any of the cylinders? If so sounds like a lack of rotation of the cam and when the crank turns over there’s a possibility the pistons have hit an open valve and bent it.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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I pulled a plug and screwed in the compression checker and turned the motor several times and the reading was zero.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 10:00 AM
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By saying that I could not hear the pistons, I meant that the engine did not lug down as much as before when it did start , LSD flashback LOL
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 10:00 AM
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No compression on any of the cylinders? If so sounds like a lack of rotation of the cam and when the crank turns over there’s a possibility the pistons have hit an open valve and bent it.
So if the 239 is a flat-head that is going to be one heck of a trick, ... I think to valves are in the block?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 10:02 AM
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The battery is hooked up to negative ground,( switched the engine to 12 V), the engine has run well in the past
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 10:04 AM
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That is my next step, am going to pull the intake and turn the engine to check valve movement
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 10:14 AM
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Easier to pull the fuel pump and check the push rod for up-down first.
 
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Try popping the distributor cap and see if the rotor turns while cranking. If it is, your cam is turning.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 10:25 AM
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Try popping the distributor cap and see if the rotor turns while cranking. If it is, your cam is turning.
Nope. Distributor drives off the front of cam.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 10:45 AM
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The distributor won't turn if the timing gear has sheared. That would be the quickest, easiest way to see if that's the problem. The cam gear is phenolic and after 60+ yrs they do fail.

You should remove ALL the spark plugs for a compression test, but it isn't going to get you off Zero. If you look thru the spark plug holes with a good light, you can watch the valves move (or not).
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 10:50 AM
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I was thinking it was a 239 y block, if it’s a flathead disregard my post.
 
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Thanks will try that
 
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