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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 07:47 PM
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Tow capacity

Trying to figure out my max towing limit.
2108 F250 4x4 has the snow plow prep and has a line item on the window sticker 10000 GVWR.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Backnblack
Trying to figure out my max towing limit.
2108 F250 4x4 has the snow plow prep and has a line item on the window sticker 10000 GVWR.
I don't believe that Ford has released the towing guide for the 2108.

The towing guide for the 2018 on the other hand can be found here: https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/d...VTTowGuide.pdf

You didn't provide enough information to find your ratings in the guide.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 10:55 PM
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As previously mentioned we don't have enough info.
Speculation: a 6.7L can pull a train but your 10K snow prepped F250 will have a very limited cargo allowance (bumper mount or bed mount).
 
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 06:04 AM
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It's a 6.7l...
Attached the window sticker and door tag for more info.
Just trying to wrap my head around this to be sure I'm looking at 5th wheels that I can pull...





 
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 09:22 AM
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The easy answer is: You're very limited in which 5th wheel trailers you can pull. You chose an F-250. That's the start of your problem since the GVWR is limited to 10K. Then you have the 6.7L engine which deducts about 800 lbs from your cargo capacity. For the definitive answer, you need to look at the yellow sticker next to the second sticker you posted above. The yellow sticker tells you the cargo capacity.

Total trailer capacity will depend on your GCWR. It be either 14,000 or 14,700, depending on the GCWR. However, don't get your hopes up. You'll run out of cargo capacity long before you get close to trailer capacity.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 09:42 AM
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The F250 is much better suited to a bumper pull travel trailer (as more of the weight is on the trailer axle = less weight on the truck).
Just a guess - if insisting on a fifth wheel: look to one at around 10K pounds max; properly balance that'll place an additional 2K pounds on your hitch / and maybe more.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2020 | 10:43 AM
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You will get answers all over the place on this, and will likely be more confused than ever. So,cou;ld you please answer the following.
1. Are you talking about a 5th wheel / gooseneckRV or trailer for personal use? Or a 5th wheel/gooseneck trailer for commercial purposes?
2. What weight is YOUR truck registered for in YOUR state?
3. Does YOUR state want the truck and trailer weights separate, or combined?
4. Does YOUR state require non Commercial class A for over certain weight class?
Answer these questions, and I will TRY to help you.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Army RET
The F250 is much better suited to a bumper pull travel trailer (as more of the weight is on the trailer axle = less weight on the truck).
Just a guess - if insisting on a fifth wheel: look to one at around 10K pounds max; properly balance that'll place an additional 2K pounds on your hitch / and maybe more.
Yes, it's an awesome travel trailer hauler with its big wheel base, better suited for hauling than a F150. For a fifth wheel not so much unless you don't care about being overloaded.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 99150
You will get answers all over the place on this, and will likely be more confused than ever. So,cou;ld you please answer the following.
1. Are you talking about a 5th wheel / gooseneckRV or trailer for personal use? Or a 5th wheel/gooseneck trailer for commercial purposes?
2. What weight is YOUR truck registered for in YOUR state?
3. Does YOUR state want the truck and trailer weights separate, or combined?
4. Does YOUR state require non Commercial class A for over certain weight class?
Answer these questions, and I will TRY to help you.
Doesn't hurt to go through these questions. There is a reason for the F250 and it seems to fit some odd-ball legal scenarios. It is possible in the U.S. to legally tow more with an F250 than a SRW F350 depending on state regulations.

Also, it depends on how the truck is configured. My 2002 long bed, extended cab diesel has 3000 lb payload based on Cat scale weights and its GVWR is actually less than 10,000lbs. Its payload of 3000 lbs put it near some new F350's depending on configuration.

It pays to go through all the numbers.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 04:14 PM
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I've just been going through this trying to configure and F150 for a light 5th wheel. It was a lot of work, but Ford's online data gives you what you need. Try the link from HRKTD.

What I've found (echos some previous comments) is that payload is probably the most critical: Figure your payload capacity first, I think their ought to be another door jam sticker that shows actual payload for your vehicle or unloaded weight. (GW-UW=payload). Now add up people weight, fuel weight, 5th hitch weight and any other stuff you'll have in the truck when towing. Subtract all that from your payload. Now you need to know the hitch weight from your LOADED trailer (the published hitch weight is for an empty trailer).
The conservative approach is to take 20% or the trailer's gross weight (GVWR).
You can probably be safe by calculating a % using the trailer sticker's UVW / GVWR. Then use that percentage of the trailer's GVWR.
If you have enough left-over payload to handle this, you're "ok."

Then check Ford's table on max 5th wheel weights for your truck (chassis, bed, engine, axle). The trailer GVWR must be less. Good luck.

Max 5th wheel weights are lower than conventional trailer weights.

After all my reading, I find that I want an F150XLT crew cab 6.5' bed, Ecoboost 3.5, HD payload option plus a few goodies. It has a paper payload of 2870lbs, and 5th tow capacity of 11,500. I'm suspecting that I can't find such an animal at any dealer and will have to order it.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 04:18 PM
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5th wheel we want is 20,000lb fully loaded. My F250 has a max load of 2215. I'm overloaded before the word go...

Will not work. I will be looking at 350/450 DRW to pull with.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 04:19 PM
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Wow, that's a trailer!
 
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RVagain
Wow, that's a trailer!
That it is....


https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...oorplans/397th
 
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 08:32 PM
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Get the 450, bigger brakes and better turning(based on what I have read).
Our 303RLS looks like a baby compared to what you're buying. Welcome to the Grand Design family.
 
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