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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
Gravity bleed is slow, no helper needed. All 4 corners will bleed this way. Do NOT pump the pedal. You’ll need a helper for conventional 2-man bleeding method.

1 quart is probably adequate to replace all of the fluid if you start by slurping all of the fluid from reservoir.
I am having to replace the front calipers also, is it still ok to gravity bleed the system without pumping the brakes being that the caliper pistons are not actually touching the pads yet?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 01:20 PM
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I am having to replace the front calipers also, is it still ok to gravity bleed the system without pumping the brakes being that the caliper pistons are not actually touching the pads yet?
If you ‘pump the brakes’ with bleeders open, you’ll suck air in...

The pistons being out does not affect air bleeding. But will require additional fluid to top off reservoir when you do pump the brakes after closing bleeders.

When you do pump pedal to push the pistons out, use short strokes. We want to avoid pushing master cylinder piston past it’s normal point of travel. When using 2-man bleed method, use a block of wood under pedal to limit travel.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
If you ‘pump the brakes’ with bleeders open, you’ll suck air in...

The pistons being out does not affect air bleeding. But will require additional fluid to top off reservoir when you do pump the brakes after closing bleeders.

When you do pump pedal to push the pistons out, use short strokes. We want to avoid pushing master cylinder piston past it’s normal point of travel. When using 2-man bleed method, use a block of wood under pedal to limit travel.
thanks ssj, I have all four bleeders open now and the back is bleeding super slow but I assume will flow a little faster once I close the front bleeders. Are you saying that I need to do the two-man system after the gravity system? I am by myself that's why I was trying to do it with the gravity feed. Or just short pump on the pedal once I am done bleeding and then top off Reservoir?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 01:56 PM
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Gravity is often enough. If you still have a ‘spongy’ pedal, you’ll need pressure/vacuum or the 2-Man method.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
Gravity is often enough. If you still have a ‘spongy’ pedal, you’ll need pressure/vacuum or the 2-Man method.
the front brakes have new fluid coming through but the back has pretty much stopped flowing even with the front bleeders closed. Is this normal?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 02:25 PM
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Sometimes, you can close bleeders and pump the pedal slowly until it gets hard and then try to gravity again.

Sometimes, ya gotta use pressure/vacuum or 2-Man...
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
Sometimes, you can close bleeders and pump the pedal slowly until it gets hard and then try to gravity again.

Sometimes, ya gotta use pressure/vacuum or 2-Man...
And sometimes you just gotta sing the blues
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 02:53 PM
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I've tried using pneumatic suction bottle and no matter how much fluid I suck out my pedal is still spongy. Do I just keep pulling fluid from each corner? Not really sure what the heck went wrong
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 02:59 PM
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A little story:

I serviced my rear brake calibers in last winter.
I scratched my head for a while,why theres no air coming from the bleeder!
Previous owner/servicer had flipped the calipers from side to side!
Bleeders were pointing down!
Swapped calipers and loved the sound of air coming from those bleeders!
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FinnishStroker
A little story:

I serviced my rear brake calibers in last winter.
I scratched my head for a while,why theres no air coming from the bleeder!
Previous owner/servicer had flipped the calipers from side to side!
Bleeders were pointing down!
Swapped calipers and loved the sound of air coming from those bleeders!
I can't get air to stop coming out, I thought air was a bad thing?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 03:09 PM
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Yes,air Bad.
No air at all after caliper service,Bad.
Burst of air,then only fluid,Good.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 03:20 PM
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Do I just keep pulling fluid?? Im getting alot of air in each line . Need the truck for work tomorrow, any help would be appreciated
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jstihl
I've tried using pneumatic suction bottle and no matter how much fluid I suck out my pedal is still spongy. Do I just keep pulling fluid from each corner? Not really sure what the heck went wrong
2-Man method is what I would do if struggling.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
2-Man method is what I would do if struggling.
thats a bummer, already went through 3 quarts. It doesn't matter that I'm leaving the cap off does it. I'm not letting it run dry
 
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 04:07 PM
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Is it possible I got air in the ABS module and will not be able to evacuate all the air in the system? I don't know that's what someone told me but I don't know how credible they are
 
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