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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 04:27 PM
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Thanks, Tripleframe! I have some time to decide so I am taking on board all the great input from this site.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 07:26 PM
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Nice truck to start with, many Flaresides were bought by governments and public utilities and were not pampered. A full syncro box from a '63-'64 would be a nice upgrade.
The oral history I was give aside, you may be onto something there. The original color was "game warden" green and the truck was both sparsely and oddly optioned. Fresh air heater, emergency flashers, lighter, dual sun visors and armrests, dual door mounted mirrors and 3.70 axel ratio. No radio and the dash was never cut for one and no antenna hole on the cowl. A few of these things could have been added at the dealer but it looks to be pretty much a stripped truck.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefdave

Added a 100 amp alternator to take care of the a/c electric load and headers/carb to boost the HP to carry the additional mechanical load of the compressor.
Chief, lots of dated, but not-so-complimentary reviews of Clifford on the net. What has your experience been with them?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 03:33 PM
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Chief, lots of dated, but not-so-complimentary reviews of Clifford on the net. What has your experience been with them?
Bob, I think that the bad rap on Clifford is 2 fold. First all of their products are old school tech and the new generation of hot rodders just don't know how to work with it, they want plug and play. Second, Jack passed away a while back and his daughter and son-in-law are running the company. They do the best they can but a lot of expertise went to the grave with Jack. The 223 setup is a bit expensive but so far I'm very pleased with it. It's a little out of place in this forum but I'm attaching a picture of the engine in my '49 to illustrate just how old school I am. Keep me posted on your progress with Suzie Q.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2020 | 05:36 PM
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Bob, I think that the bad rap on Clifford is 2 fold. First all of their products are old school tech and the new generation of hot rodders just don't know how to work with it, they want plug and play. Second, Jack passed away a while back and his daughter and son-in-law are running the company. They do the best they can but a lot of expertise went to the grave with Jack. The 223 setup is a bit expensive but so far I'm very pleased with it. It's a little out of place in this forum but I'm attaching a picture of the engine in my '49 to illustrate just how old school I am. Keep me posted on your progress with Suzie Q.
Helpful as always, Chief! The '49 motor is a beauty. I'm not building a 21st Century race truck - frankly I understand the old school tech much better anyway. Just need a little more pep out of the 223. Was your motor stock when you added the Clifford kit?
Thanks again!
 
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Old Jun 10, 2020 | 11:20 PM
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Helpful as always, Chief! The '49 motor is a beauty. I'm not building a 21st Century race truck - frankly I understand the old school tech much better anyway. Just need a little more pep out of the 223. Was your motor stock when you added the Clifford kit?
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Yes I started with a stock engine. Went with the Clifford setup rather than multi carbs because they are too hard to sync. Still waiting for my distributor but so far so good. Going to start the A/C install tomorrow.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 08:28 AM
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Yes I started with a stock engine. Went with the Clifford setup rather than multi carbs because they are too hard to sync. Still waiting for my distributor but so far so good. Going to start the A/C install tomorrow.
Very exciting, Chief! Did Clifford recommend the distributor swap or are you after "easier" more predictable, HEI timing?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 09:00 AM
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Very exciting, Chief! Did Clifford recommend the distributor swap or are you after "easier" more predictable, HEI timing?
I'm having a mid 70's 240/300 distributor modified to fit the 223 so I will have mechanical and vacuum advance both. The Load O Matic distributor that came on the 223's is vacuum only and will not work properly with anything except the original 1 barrel carb so this is a common swap when changing carburation. The original 12 tooth drive gear has to be modified and used and the new one has to be modified to accept the original 1/4" hex oil pump drive. Will still be a points/condenser setup. You might be on the lookout for a Mallory dual point flat top YC or ZC 313, they work great and the cool factor is off the gauge. I was wondering if you are an air wing or grunt.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefdave
I'm having a mid 70's 240/300 distributor modified to fit the 223 so I will have mechanical and vacuum advance both. The Load O Matic distributor that came on the 223's is vacuum only and will not work properly with anything except the original 1 barrel carb so this is a common swap when changing carburation. The original 12 tooth drive gear has to be modified and used and the new one has to be modified to accept the original 1/4" hex oil pump drive. Will still be a points/condenser setup. You might be on the lookout for a Mallory dual point flat top YC or ZC 313, they work great and the cool factor is off the gauge. I was wondering if you are an air wing or grunt.
Had not considered the vacuum challenge. Good gouge. I'll check the options out.
I am a CH46 helicopter pilot by MOS. Lots of time on LPHs, LHAs and a little while on LHDs (ARGMEU mostly). Obviously been awhile since I got to fly my Battlephrog, so my latest flight time is in a MV22 but even that's a couple of years old by bow. A lot of "desk jockeying" at this point in my career. What was your specialty?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 08:08 AM
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Had not considered the vacuum challenge. Good gouge. I'll check the options out.
I am a CH46 helicopter pilot by MOS. Lots of time on LPHs, LHAs and a little while on LHDs (ARGMEU mostly). Obviously been awhile since I got to fly my Battlephrog, so my latest flight time is in a MV22 but even that's a couple of years old by bow. A lot of "desk jockeying" at this point in my career. What was your specialty?
My rate was Aviation Machinist Mate and my NEC P3 Flight Engineer for the last 17 years of my career. My next promotion would have meant flying a desk and working half days (12 hours) so it was time to retire. If you are ever in central Missouri let me know and we can swap sea stories over an adult beverage.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 06:18 PM
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My rate was Aviation Machinist Mate and my NEC P3 Flight Engineer for the last 17 years of my career. My next promotion would have meant flying a desk and working half days (12 hours) so it was time to retire. If you are ever in central Missouri let me know and we can swap sea stories over an adult beverage.
Will do, Chief. Smart man. I have no doubt there are ample hair raisers from both of us! Naval Aviation - cheating death every day.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 11:29 PM
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1992 P3 Allison T56 school in San Jose. Sorry Guys shallow water sailor here Aviation Machinist mate C130 Load and drop master. thanks for your service.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 06:35 AM
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1992 P3 Allison T56 school in San Jose. Sorry Guys shallow water sailor here Aviation Machinist mate C130 Load and drop master. thanks for your service.
Matters not what service or MOS, Rusty. Just that you served. Semper Fidelis.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 09:56 AM
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1992 P3 Allison T56 school in San Jose. Sorry Guys shallow water sailor here Aviation Machinist mate C130 Load and drop master. thanks for your service.
Thanks for your service as well. My son was a 130 loadmaster in the Navy. Here's a tech for you, while that upside down gearbox works OK in a 130 don't try is in an old Ford truch
 
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 07:38 PM
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LOL Ah yes the Question who's gear box up side down?I imagine I would feel the same as you son.
 
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