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Old May 24, 2020 | 01:18 PM
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Ground problem

Where do I look for a ground problem that causes my tach to act up, especially when turn signals are used? I'm not sure where to even start!
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 01:51 PM
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Mine has the same issue, mine is a manual though so I just drive it. I was thinking I probably melted a fusible link when I accidentally hooked up 2 batteries(24V) trying to jump it before I had new batteries/battery cables. Smart I know. I've looked at a wiring diagram to look for the fusible links, but I only found 1 and it looked ok? Let me know what you find out!
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 01:59 PM
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tach gets Ground on connector A3 and that Black wire ends up behind Left Cowl panel.

BTW High Beam and Fasten Seat Belt warning Lamps get that same ground so IF those work then your issue is in the Cluster IF you ain't got Ground.
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 04:44 PM
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tach gets Ground on connector A3 and that Black wire ends up behind Left Cowl panel.

BTW High Beam and Fasten Seat Belt warning Lamps get that same ground so IF those work then your issue is in the Cluster IF you ain't got Ground.
Thanks, I’ll look into that. High beam and seat belt lamps work.
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 04:51 PM
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Mine has the same issue, mine is a manual though so I just drive it. I was thinking I probably melted a fusible link when I accidentally hooked up 2 batteries(24V) trying to jump it before I had new batteries/battery cables. Smart I know. I've looked at a wiring diagram to look for the fusible links, but I only found 1 and it looked ok? Let me know what you find out!
I have a manual too and drive by ear not tach, just one of those things that has annoyed me for years
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 04:54 PM
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you can see from this diagram .. marked with red arrow is Ground




Maybe you have other issue besides Ground ?
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 05:05 PM
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IF you have Standard Tranny A9 goes to the Tach Sensor on the IP gear housing and the Ground wire for the sensor, it is still behind the Left Cowl Panel.
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 05:10 PM
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you can see from this diagram .. marked with red arrow is Ground


Maybe you have other issue besides Ground ?
thanks, I’ll look for that ground.

yes, quite possible I have other issues! Tach pulses when turn signal is on and other times just reads low. Just seems like a ground issue
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 05:14 PM
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Have you Cleaned the Tach Sender yet ? have you checked it's resistance ?
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 05:20 PM
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BTW this is a work in Progress... I haven't started my truck since I cleaned the sensor so I haven't posted results yet.

but that FleaBay Amp board could be a Problem solver for weak signal...... https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...r-erattic.html

I will follow it up when I have more Data.

My Last post gives what the resistance specs should be... but Heat destroys Magnetism so a sender that tests Good may in fact be putting out low voltage due to loss of magnetism on the center Pole Piece.... and of course fuzz on it acts like a Keeper on a Horse shoe magnet.
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lonewolf_
you can see from this diagram .. marked with red arrow is Ground




Maybe you have other issue besides Ground ?
Originally Posted by lonewolf_
BTW this is a work in Progress... I haven't started my truck since I cleaned the sensor so I haven't posted results yet.

but that FleaBay Amp board could be a Problem solver for weak signal...... https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...r-erattic.html

I will follow it up when I have more Data.

My Last post gives what the resistance specs should be... but Heat destroys Magnetism so a sender that tests Good may in fact be putting out low voltage due to loss of magnetism on the center Pole Piece.... and of course fuzz on it acts like a Keeper on a Horse shoe magnet.
I’ll check that out. Thanks. Tach sender is on the IP?
 
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Old May 24, 2020 | 09:57 PM
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on the Injection Pump Gear Housing ...
https://www.dieselhub.com/img/tutorials/idi_tach/3.JPG
 
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Old May 27, 2020 | 01:27 AM
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Have you Cleaned the Tach Sender yet ? have you checked it's resistance ?
Tech sensor wires are in pretty bad shape so I ordered a new sensor, hopefully that's it. Thanks for the help.
 
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Old May 27, 2020 | 01:56 AM
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yeah a new sensor costs 25 to 30 bux ... pretty expensive.... when that might not be the issue....

Did you check it;s value... and clean it ?
what was the AC voltage that it was putting out at Idle ?

I know most folks just want to toss money at a problem without knowing the real cause.
 
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Old May 27, 2020 | 02:17 AM
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yeah a new sensor costs 25 to 30 bux ... pretty expensive.... when that might not be the issue....

Did you check it;s value... and clean it ?
what was the AC voltage that it was putting out at Idle ?

I know most folks just want to toss money at a problem without knowing the real cause.
Insulation is coming off both wires all the way into the the sensor and there is no way to replace them. I'll pony up for the sensor since those wires are in bad shape. Then I can continue on to looking for ground problems.
 
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