BAD ECM?
#1
BAD ECM?
My '95 F250 has a 120k mile engine in good health.. For about 2-3k miles it has had some really strange issues.. When I bought it at about 112k miles it sometimes got the rolling idle these trucks were known for from time to time but for the most part ran great. 90% of the time it had a solid idle.. Now it gets a high idle sometimes but calms down, other times it has a slight surge.. The really strange thing happens when it gets a high idle surge. And it's like 1,500 down to nothing and back rapidly.. No codes and the truck is still drivable it's just annoying.. The fact the IAC is controlling it that rapidly tells me the IAC itself is working
It had a slight missfire which I cured with a Summit racing tuneup .. I ordered MSD cap/ rotor, Ford Racing 9mm wires, Street Fire coil and a Summit CDI box. Oh and Autolite 25 plugs. I only needed a new cap, rotor and plugs but it just sounded good
I was going to LS swap this truck but I actually just got engaged and so, I had a ring expense and whatever else my fiancee wants. she's a car chick so somewhat expensive... Truck may get long tube headers eventually but only because she will want it to sound good, or rather I could justify it to her
I'm thinking the ECM is bad, and finding a 302 5spd speed density ECU might be a tall order
It had a slight missfire which I cured with a Summit racing tuneup .. I ordered MSD cap/ rotor, Ford Racing 9mm wires, Street Fire coil and a Summit CDI box. Oh and Autolite 25 plugs. I only needed a new cap, rotor and plugs but it just sounded good
I was going to LS swap this truck but I actually just got engaged and so, I had a ring expense and whatever else my fiancee wants. she's a car chick so somewhat expensive... Truck may get long tube headers eventually but only because she will want it to sound good, or rather I could justify it to her
I'm thinking the ECM is bad, and finding a 302 5spd speed density ECU might be a tall order
#2
Well good luck on all counts!
Not sure if it's the ECM or not, but if it comes down to you not being able to find one (I think they're still out there, but sometimes not all the time) then once you get some more money you can always go with a PimpX from Stinger Performance. There's another discussion here just today with some details, but basically it's a custom brain inside a stock Ford enclosure so your stock harness plugs right in. It's programmable to your satisfaction so you can tweak if for the headers if needed, and any other mods too.
It's not like a $200 reman unit of course (more like closer to a grand I think) but it's a cool option for enthusiasts.
Anyway, back to the top in case anyone else knows what it might be. At this point it would be great if it just turned out to be a bad connector on a sensor!
Paul
Not sure if it's the ECM or not, but if it comes down to you not being able to find one (I think they're still out there, but sometimes not all the time) then once you get some more money you can always go with a PimpX from Stinger Performance. There's another discussion here just today with some details, but basically it's a custom brain inside a stock Ford enclosure so your stock harness plugs right in. It's programmable to your satisfaction so you can tweak if for the headers if needed, and any other mods too.
It's not like a $200 reman unit of course (more like closer to a grand I think) but it's a cool option for enthusiasts.
Anyway, back to the top in case anyone else knows what it might be. At this point it would be great if it just turned out to be a bad connector on a sensor!
Paul
#3
A rolling idle is rarely caused by a bad PCM. Vacuum leaks, bad TPS, sticking throttle cable, leaking throttlebody, are the most common causes. Many times it is one cause stacked on top of the other. Intermittent high idle can be a bad sensor that the computer is compensating for.
Warm up the engine then run the Key On Engine Off (KOEO) tests and Stored Code display.
Warm up the engine then run the Key On Engine Off (KOEO) tests and Stored Code display.
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A rolling idle is rarely caused by a bad PCM. Vacuum leaks, bad TPS, sticking throttle cable, leaking throttlebody, are the most common causes. Many times it is one cause stacked on top of the other. Intermittent high idle can be a bad sensor that the computer is compensating for.
Warm up the engine then run the Key On Engine Off (KOEO) tests and Stored Code display.
Warm up the engine then run the Key On Engine Off (KOEO) tests and Stored Code display.
#6
Not outputting codes is one of the signs of a possible failed ECU but it's not definitive. There are an infinite number of ways a failed ECU can act from complete failure/no run condition to very minor issues. Just depends what component inside the ECU failed.
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1,3,7,2,6,5,4,8 make sure 1, 3 dont cross each other, and 5, 6 dont cross each other
#10
The distributor is routed correctly. I pulled the wires all off and did them off the diagram/ firing order and they don't cross. This cured the misfire. It has better response and power now, it's just an IAC doing the wrong things now pretty much. Still drivable but annoying
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The CDI box was cheap enough and I figured multiple sparks couldn't hurt. I know it's not needed.. The whole tuneup made a big difference in how it runs. Starts quicker now, almost with just the pop of the key
And it's speed density but it's an F250 302 so that is somewhat uncommon in the '95 year range for a new ECU. F150's of that era were mostly Mass air
#15
That was determined by the transmission. Someone correct me if I’m wrong but only computer controlled ( E4OD/ 4R70W ) transmission trucks were mass air. The rest were still speed density.