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Why are so many people against the auto start stop? Im just curious, as I don't mind it at all.
I don’t think may people are really against it and it’s “intended” purpose but many people hate the idea of just remembering to hit the button after start up to disable it and not realizing it until they come to their first stop after getting under way.
Also, I’m sure some also agree that it puts more wear and tear on the starter if it’s not turned off.
With that being said and I don’t think it’ll ever happen but it would be nice if manufacturers would put a switch or setting in a vehicle to permanently have it turned off by it’s owner.
Why are so many people against the auto start stop? Im just curious, as I don't mind it at all.
Regardless of how well the auto start/stop system was designed, it will (in my opinion) cause additional wear on certain components. The starter is used more often, there is more demand on the battery/charging system and the oil pump isn't running during the "off" events.
Is it likely to cause a failure within the reasonable lifespan of the truck? Probably not. However Ford's warranty coverage is far shorter than the vehicles intended life cycle. I'll take component longevity over saving a couple of gallons of gas every year. That is why I disable mine.
Originally Posted by mikemtn
I'm guessing that in the near future it will be a requirement with legal ramifications for disabling it.
The engines with auto start/stop have a much heavier starter than what is typical if the engine does not have auto start/stop. I don't think that wear and tear on the starter is an issue. Also, engines equipped with auto start/stop have a mechanism to keep the oil pressure up for the duration of the "stop" portion of auto start/stop.
it may be irritating, but I don't believe there are extra wear issues.
The engines with auto start/stop have a much heavier starter than what is typical if the engine does not have auto start/stop. I don't think that wear and tear on the starter is an issue. Also, engines equipped with auto start/stop have a mechanism to keep the oil pressure up for the duration of the "stop" portion of auto start/stop.
it may be irritating, but I don't believe there are extra wear issues.
I hear what you're saying - all of that has been explained to me before. I just don't subscribe myself. To me a start cycle is a start cycle. The starter has a defined life (as stated above, probably longer than the expected lifespan of the truck). Since Ford doesn't provide lifetime warranties on the Starter, Battery or Alternator - I'm not going to use system that commands more cycles from these systems for the sake of saving a few teaspoons of fuel at idle while stopped.
Again, that's just me and my opinion. I can't recall any forum posts of people having issues with the system or causing parts to fail early.
The engines with auto start/stop have a much heavier starter than what is typical if the engine does not have auto start/stop. I don't think that wear and tear on the starter is an issue. Also, engines equipped with auto start/stop have a mechanism to keep the oil pressure up for the duration of the "stop" portion of auto start/stop.
it may be irritating, but I don't believe there are extra wear issues.
There is no mechanism for keeping oil pressure up, Ford like the rest of the OEM's do not use a pre-oiler. They instead rely on bearing coatings. The starter is nothing special either, take a look under the truck. You won't find anything large or heavy duty. The starters do last a good while, the ones I have worked on have all been 80-100k service before replacing the starter. The 10r80 does have an electric fluid priming pump to assist in clutch engagement.
All Ford did about oiling was make it slower for the oil to drain out of the top of the engine. That's why they ask for a 15 min wait to check the dipstick.
Why are so many people against the auto start stop? Im just curious, as I don't mind it at all.
In my truck, with Auto start-stop...was sitting at a slope waiting to merge into oncoming traffic. just that matter of time for the engine to go live and give me power was really unnerving and definitely made me more observant of when I leave it on (hardly ever).
If you don't understand, it would be pointless to try to explain.
You are obviously a closed minded person. I have a very open mind and was wondering why people have this opinion.
Originally Posted by GABAR
I don’t think may people are really against it and it’s “intended” purpose but many people hate the idea of just remembering to hit the button after start up to disable it and not realizing it until they come to their first stop after getting under way.
Also, I’m sure some also agree that it puts more wear and tear on the starter if it’s not turned off.
With that being said and I don’t think it’ll ever happen but it would be nice if manufacturers would put a switch or setting in a vehicle to permanently have it turned off by it’s owner.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by Robbgt
Regardless of how well the auto start/stop system was designed, it will (in my opinion) cause additional wear on certain components. The starter is used more often, there is more demand on the battery/charging system and the oil pump isn't running during the "off" events.
Is it likely to cause a failure within the reasonable lifespan of the truck? Probably not. However Ford's warranty coverage is far shorter than the vehicles intended life cycle. I'll take component longevity over saving a couple of gallons of gas every year. That is why I disable mine.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by db_tanker
In my truck, with Auto start-stop...was sitting at a slope waiting to merge into oncoming traffic. just that matter of time for the engine to go live and give me power was really unnerving and definitely made me more observant of when I leave it on (hardly ever).
You can control that with the amount of brake pressure you apply.
COFLHTK,
Thanks for the last sentence. I thought that something like that was happening. because my auto stop function only seems to work about 50% of the time. So i'm not loosing my mind.
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