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#977
What type of fastener would you use to secure a toolbox like this one to the bed?
This is an old 5th wheel-compatible tool box I got for free from a Dodge truck we were selling for a friend. Using a ratchet strap temporarily to see if I like it. I don't have a key for it, but with the tailgate closed, it blocks the T-handle, which is a pop-out and turn mechanism. Too bad the tailgate is no longer lockable with the camera install. I'd like to find a replacement lock for the toolbox at some point.
I was thinking of putting either pre-bulbed rivet nuts or standard rivet nuts in the bed at the four corners of the toolbox, and bolt the box in place on the rubber bedmat with 1/4"-20 bolts. Easy to remove by unbolting when I want to carry something that needs the space.
Interested in your thoughts here.
This is an old 5th wheel-compatible tool box I got for free from a Dodge truck we were selling for a friend. Using a ratchet strap temporarily to see if I like it. I don't have a key for it, but with the tailgate closed, it blocks the T-handle, which is a pop-out and turn mechanism. Too bad the tailgate is no longer lockable with the camera install. I'd like to find a replacement lock for the toolbox at some point.
I was thinking of putting either pre-bulbed rivet nuts or standard rivet nuts in the bed at the four corners of the toolbox, and bolt the box in place on the rubber bedmat with 1/4"-20 bolts. Easy to remove by unbolting when I want to carry something that needs the space.
Interested in your thoughts here.
#978
Have you wanted a track system in the bed so you can position anchors where you need them but found E-track too bulky? Then try L-track. It is similar to what is used in aircraft cabins to bolt seats down to. An L-track rail is also narrow enough to fit into the “valleys” of the somewhat corrugated bed. Many accessories are made to go with L-track, which is why I bring it up. One of these accessories is a stud that sticks up out of the track for you to bolt stuff down onto the track.
There many profiles too.
Stud attachment
Tie-down loop
The only downside is you need to keep the track covered when not in use or it fills with crud quickly.
There many profiles too.
Stud attachment
Tie-down loop
The only downside is you need to keep the track covered when not in use or it fills with crud quickly.
#979
@FordTruckNoob
Have you encountered any L track that has a radiused edge (see "surface mount" in your photo) on one side, and a straight edge (see "heavy duty") or flanged edge (see "recessed mount") on the other side of the same stick of L track?
Most that are straight don't have a kinky side (radiused or recessed)... but I want to mount some L track around the perimeter of a flat bed, and want the ramp benefit of the radius on the outboard edge, while abutting a lining material (such as PT marine plywood, or composite equivalent) on the inboard side.
I contacted one supplier, who said no. Then I got busy prototyping other parts for the bed, and your post reminded me that I still have this problem to solve.
There is not enough material to machine a radiused edge into a straight edge, nor cut a straight edge out of a radiused edge, without compromising the holding power of the track.
Surely I cannot be the only person who wants to use L track as a perimeter border to a rubber mat, plywood, or other liner material on a loading platform.
Have you seen what I'm looking for?
Have you encountered any L track that has a radiused edge (see "surface mount" in your photo) on one side, and a straight edge (see "heavy duty") or flanged edge (see "recessed mount") on the other side of the same stick of L track?
Most that are straight don't have a kinky side (radiused or recessed)... but I want to mount some L track around the perimeter of a flat bed, and want the ramp benefit of the radius on the outboard edge, while abutting a lining material (such as PT marine plywood, or composite equivalent) on the inboard side.
I contacted one supplier, who said no. Then I got busy prototyping other parts for the bed, and your post reminded me that I still have this problem to solve.
There is not enough material to machine a radiused edge into a straight edge, nor cut a straight edge out of a radiused edge, without compromising the holding power of the track.
Surely I cannot be the only person who wants to use L track as a perimeter border to a rubber mat, plywood, or other liner material on a loading platform.
Have you seen what I'm looking for?
#980
@Y2KW57 I can visualize what you are talking about but have not seen such a product in all my research on L-track. My first suggestion was to tell you to mill the flange down on one side of the recessed L-track profile but I see you have already considered that. You may have to resort to using a surface mount L-track profile and then fill the gap between the track and the deck with a T cross section trim strip. Or go with the heavy-duty profile and add a 1/4 circle dowel on the outside perhaps?
#981
I still haven't decided on the material for the impact protection, the thickness of which would dictate the L track selection to border it with.
And I am still of half a mind to eliminate both altogether.
On another aspect of the same truck, I designed a Part A, and a Part B that supported Part A. Because Part B supported Part A, I had to design Part B in conjunction with Part A in order to establish how the two parts would interface in general.
Then I had to decide which Part to commit to first (I chose Part A), build one and install it, to establish with certainty a physical reference to finalize how Part B should be built to meet Part A.
But when I installed Part A, and tested it through the range of motion, including the positions where it would need the most support from Part B, I discovered that I overdesigned Part A, and the darn thing didn't need any support from Part B. So I eliminated Part B. But not before a tortuous trip through a couple of dozen design iterations of Part B, and even going so far as buying all the materials to build a couple of Part Bs.
I only share this because I think you understand this pain.
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#984
Thank you for the L-track recommendation - while I don't think I will use it for this application, it's filed away for a future project. Definitely like the range of attachments to choose from.
Good point on 1/4" bolts - might be too light duty. The aluminum box itself is pretty light, but I need to remember the weight of gear that will go into it. I was thinking of using that size remembering the tailgate shock rivet nut I had installed, and that I could use the same installation tool. Let's go larger.
Good point on 1/4" bolts - might be too light duty. The aluminum box itself is pretty light, but I need to remember the weight of gear that will go into it. I was thinking of using that size remembering the tailgate shock rivet nut I had installed, and that I could use the same installation tool. Let's go larger.
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