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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 05:50 PM
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Timing help

I am not able to time my 79 Bronco properly.

Background: ‘79 Bronco with a 351M, EGR, A/C, Auto Transmissiom. I recently replaced the stock distributor with a Proform HEI distributor. The EGR is capped at the carburetor due to the connecting point on the temp switch being broken. I do not have the spec sticker on the glovebox door.

I thought I found the correct emission control information sheet, and tried to tune it to those numbers (4BTDC @ 500 RPM), and the truck ran horribly. When I connected the vacuum advance, the engine stalls. After messing with it for a little bit, I can get it to idle, but any time I press on the gas, it stutters and stalls.
Right now I do not have the vacuum advance hooked up, and the engine runs okay. I would like to be able to connect the vacuum advance, though. Any advice?

please let me know if you need more information.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 10:20 PM
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I don't know what timing for a stock '79 351M is supposed to be, but if I were you I'd try 10-12 initial with 28-30 with the vacuum advance.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SDDL-UP
I don't know what timing for a stock '79 351M is supposed to be, but if I were you I'd try 10-12 initial with 28-30 with the vacuum advance.
Thank you, SDDL-UP. I will give it a shot in the morning. Even if it does not work, you just made me realize that I have never made a baseline of what has worked.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 08:18 AM
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If setting the base ignition timing to factory spec makes it run "horrible", that is a big clue to back up a bit and do some vestigatin'. Make sure that the TDC "0" mark on the crankshaft balancer is still accurately located. The easiest way is to use an inexpensive tool called a piston stop. This is very important because everything mechanical inside the engine that has to do with setting up ignition timing or the valvetrain is based on this point.

Common problem and causes lots of head scratching. The heavy steel outer ring on old balancers slips because the rubber bonding dry rots. See this all the time here at FTE.

From the factory, just about every OHV V8 ever made by anybody for the last 65 years wants 34° to 36° BTDC "total" ignition timing. This would be without vacuum advance. When the vacuum advance is connected ignition advance be about 50° when cruising on flat ground. Honest Injun!
 
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