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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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Question Starter Problems?

Hey folks,

I have been having some trouble starting my truck. Every so often, I will turn the key to start the truck, and it will click once, as if the start is engaging, but it doen't continue to turn. This happened several weeks ago, and I thought I only had a loose wire on the starter(it looked like the wire and nut had arced on the post on the starter. I tightened it up, and all had been fine. Last night, I got my truck saftey inspection, and afterwards, it acted up again. The mechanic that did the inspection tapped on the start with my tire iron, and it started right up. He said the brushes were probably not making contact at that particular spot. He suggested I should get a new starter before the old one goes south for good. Has anyone else had this problem? Does the mechanic's diagnosis sound correct? If so, I will replace the starter immediately.

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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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sounds close, i would definitely replace the starter and even the solenoid, they are not to expensive anyway also check your negative cable at the battery to see if it is getting hot, it might be temporarily shorting...
 
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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Sounds more like a classic Ford solenoid problem. Try crossing the posts on the solenoid with a screwdriver, and if she starts right up, then your starter is fine, and your solenoid or some wires to it may be loose.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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Hey folks, I appreciate the info, but I don't think my explaination of the situation was very clear. The starter actually begins to engage, it just doesn't turn the motor over. Is this just the selinoid, or starter, or both? I hate to replace the starter if I don't need to. I checked around, and it seems to be around 100 bucks.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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I haven't seen a starter yet that was difficult to work on. Do a little checking and then take it apart and look at it. Parts are cheap. You can probably put a brush holder and brushes in it and run it for the life of the truck. Check the bushings and maybe put a new drive in it for good measure.

When you buy a rebuilt unit you never know where it has been, it is unproven. If you put new parts in a proven reliable unit, you have a proven starter with new parts in it. If you do buy a rebuilt starter, spring a few extra bucks for the lifetime warranty.

Your job to determine if any of this fits your situation.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 04:19 PM
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you aint seen nothin yet, my truck chews through starters, i've had six in the last 25thousand miles or so, but yeah thats what mine does every time. go ahead and get a new one, and get the lifetime warrenty
 
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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i've had six in the last 25thousand miles or so
This is exactly my point, I have run the same starter for 13 years until I finally had to replace it with a rebuilt starter. I went though the old one once when it got tired and it lasted for several years after that. Finally the winding went bad in the case and it made more sense to get another starter.
I know most people don't do it this way, but it is an option. I do the same with my alternators.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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I just replaced my starter in my 97 F150 and its new but now its not disengaging from the fly wheel and is making a loud zing nosie becuase its sticking, what do I do? Pull it back out and replace it again or just put it back in again?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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I know this is an old thread, but I finally have an update. Over the Christmas holiday, my wife going to take my sister to the doctor. Of course she turned the key and it wouldn't start. Well I pulled the starter(easy job) and disassembled it. I replaced the brushes/brush holder and regreased the bearings. It now works like a brand new starter. It only cost me 20 bucks!
 
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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brs127s - the timing of this thread couldn't be any better. I am experiencing the same problem with my truck. It just started in the last two days. I have the same symptoms that you described, I get the click of the starter engaging and that's it. After trying on and off for 10mins last night it started, but this morning, no luck. The weird thing is, why did it start giving me trouble on the coldest day of the year? It was -1* out this morning, I never had the problem in warmer weather.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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My truck did it off an on. I hadn't had a problem with it starting for quite some time. When I did get my starter apart, two of the brushes were shorter than the other two, with the shortest being considerably shorter. You could see the differences by sight.

As to why yours waited, I guess its Murphy's law. If it will it will. Mine quite at my parents house the day after Christmas. It was very windy, and on a gravel driveway. Couldn't have been a worse spot, plus without the starter, I couldn't move the truck under its own power. We chained a tire to the brush guard on my dad's old truck and pushed it into the garage.

The good thing is that it only takes about 5 to 10 minutes to get the starter off. Then you can take it inside to work on it. If I remember right, everything is half inch. There should only be the nut holding the hot wire on the engaging selenoid and the two bolts holding the starter on.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Thanks for the info. Hopefully the weather will warm up a bit this weekend so I can check things out. Right now there is a -25* windchill outside!
 
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