NIGHTMARE SITUATION
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2019
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Tell you what things gotta change......I need to get called back to work, paint some conveyors.
It needs to stop raining so I can mow grass
This virus needs to stop its thing, my wife needs to stop her
thing about the gym is Corona central. So I would like to get back in the gym.
Schedule is all screwed up, I'm NEVER up at this hour
Did you know that a 5 gallon jug of peanut oil makes one mother of a kettle belle workout?
It needs to stop raining so I can mow grass
This virus needs to stop its thing, my wife needs to stop her
thing about the gym is Corona central. So I would like to get back in the gym.
Schedule is all screwed up, I'm NEVER up at this hour
Did you know that a 5 gallon jug of peanut oil makes one mother of a kettle belle workout?
Cargo Master
Joined: Mar 2002
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From: W (BY GOD) V
You read me wrong. I am in sympathy with the OP.
The installing shop will run up against the stall game. Let's see what happens.
The installing shop will run up against the stall game. Let's see what happens.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jan 2013
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I am thinking head gasket leak allowing the anti-freeze to get sucked into the chamber. You also remove the oil oil cap and have blow back so you have in/out gases and AF fluid.
I have used a product that I added to the radiator to seal the leak on some of our ranch trucks. It worked and it lasted for the life of the trucks. There are products out there that may or may not work. In the old day, we bought peppercorns and did a coarse grind on them. They are very hard and they swell up if they get wet. Poured many of them in old radiators to stop leaks and it worked! NOT telling you to do this, but they do have products for the diesel market:
https://titanstopleaks.com/turbo-die...et-repair.html
https://gobdp.com/blog/diesel-head-gasket-repair/
I have zero experience with any of the above products and no involvement with the companies in any way, I only gave you this in hopes that it make help you situation...best of luck on this!
I have used a product that I added to the radiator to seal the leak on some of our ranch trucks. It worked and it lasted for the life of the trucks. There are products out there that may or may not work. In the old day, we bought peppercorns and did a coarse grind on them. They are very hard and they swell up if they get wet. Poured many of them in old radiators to stop leaks and it worked! NOT telling you to do this, but they do have products for the diesel market:
https://titanstopleaks.com/turbo-die...et-repair.html
https://gobdp.com/blog/diesel-head-gasket-repair/
I have zero experience with any of the above products and no involvement with the companies in any way, I only gave you this in hopes that it make help you situation...best of luck on this!
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 1,297
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From: Hunterdon Cnty N.J.
I am thinking head gasket leak allowing the anti-freeze to get sucked into the chamber. You also remove the oil oil cap and have blow back so you have in/out gases and AF fluid.
I have used a product that I added to the radiator to seal the leak on some of our ranch trucks. It worked and it lasted for the life of the trucks. There are products out there that may or may not work. In the old day, we bought peppercorns and did a coarse grind on them. They are very hard and they swell up if they get wet. Poured many of them in old radiators to stop leaks and it worked! NOT telling you to do this, but they do have products for the diesel market:
https://titanstopleaks.com/turbo-die...et-repair.html
https://gobdp.com/blog/diesel-head-gasket-repair/
I have zero experience with any of the above products and no involvement with the companies in any way, I only gave you this in hopes that it make help you situation...best of luck on this!
I have used a product that I added to the radiator to seal the leak on some of our ranch trucks. It worked and it lasted for the life of the trucks. There are products out there that may or may not work. In the old day, we bought peppercorns and did a coarse grind on them. They are very hard and they swell up if they get wet. Poured many of them in old radiators to stop leaks and it worked! NOT telling you to do this, but they do have products for the diesel market:
https://titanstopleaks.com/turbo-die...et-repair.html
https://gobdp.com/blog/diesel-head-gasket-repair/
I have zero experience with any of the above products and no involvement with the companies in any way, I only gave you this in hopes that it make help you situation...best of luck on this!
At any rate the OP used the local shop. The local shop needs to step up. If they were qualified to do a swap like that and a legit business... they need to step up and back their work. If they are buying parts etc... from somewhere and it turns out to be product failure... that business needs to step up.
All the negative response are not incorrect as its a crazy situation... but thats where he needs to begin. Unless the place is bankrupt... I wouldnt move the truck unless it was towed back to whomever built it.
Hey Scag... Im impressed.... Even if I was paying attention in school I would have forgot that by now... but Im pretty confident I was looking out the window...or at some girl....
Logistics Pro
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Hey all. Using my phone because the wife is working from home too... have no computer..Don... blown head gasket blows pressure into the coolant passages pushing antifreeze out the overflow. Actually you can keep going without damaging the lubricated parts.... until you shut down. Then it leaks back. Think about it. Compresdion from inside the cylinder...vs 14 or whatever lbs in the radiator..Been there with a Cat back in 80somthing. Was able to finish my delivery and drive to the Cat dealer.
At any rate the OP used the local shop. The local shop needs to step up. If they were qualified to do a swap like that and a legit business... they need to step up and back their work. If they are buying parts etc... from somewhere and it turns out to be product failure... that business needs to step up.
All the negative response are not incorrect as its a crazy situation... but thats where he needs to begin. Unless the place is bankrupt... I wouldnt move the truck unless it was towed back to whomever built it.
Hey Scag... Im impressed.... Even if I was paying attention in school I would have forgot that by now... but Im pretty confident I was looking out the window...or at some girl....
At any rate the OP used the local shop. The local shop needs to step up. If they were qualified to do a swap like that and a legit business... they need to step up and back their work. If they are buying parts etc... from somewhere and it turns out to be product failure... that business needs to step up.
All the negative response are not incorrect as its a crazy situation... but thats where he needs to begin. Unless the place is bankrupt... I wouldnt move the truck unless it was towed back to whomever built it.
Hey Scag... Im impressed.... Even if I was paying attention in school I would have forgot that by now... but Im pretty confident I was looking out the window...or at some girl....
Small shops generally do not have the cash to pay out big bucks and you are asking the folks that could not do it right the first time to redo it again. If this is his primary means of transportation he needs help now not down the road.
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Laughing Gas
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,134
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From: Southwestern Pa.
If in fact this was a long block, as stated by the OP, it would have been supplied with the heads already installed. That being said, a leaking head gasket should be a warranty repair issue, going back on the manufacturer and not the installer. There appears to be ways to do a compression test on this engine. That might be an appropriate starting point.
But, with this being a deleted truck, all bets may be off when it comes to any engine related warranty claims.
But, with this being a deleted truck, all bets may be off when it comes to any engine related warranty claims.
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2013
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I have a 2013 F-250 6.7. Posting here because the engine is a Brand new 2019 with a 2019 Turbo.
Long Story short, turbo went out, had a 2019 turbo put on as a replacement. Shop I had do it, completely screwed the job up, I picked the truck up, drove it 30 miles and engine completely locked. (Lawsuit going on-they gave me nothing of my $5000 back with no help on damages caused)
Had another ”reputable shop” replace the engine with a brand new 2019 Longblock from ford parts, 2019 BrandNew Turbo from Ford parts, had everything redone.
$15,000 and 3k miles Later, I started to get coolant in my oil slowly. Coolant levels depleting slowly. Loud ticking in the engine. It’s been back to the same shop 4 times and they have an excuse for every problem such as “the milky oil must be from condensation in the crank when we had the engine off”. NOTHING is under warranty because the truck has been fully deleted since 40k miles. It is now at 150k.
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Long Story short, turbo went out, had a 2019 turbo put on as a replacement. Shop I had do it, completely screwed the job up, I picked the truck up, drove it 30 miles and engine completely locked. (Lawsuit going on-they gave me nothing of my $5000 back with no help on damages caused)
Had another ”reputable shop” replace the engine with a brand new 2019 Longblock from ford parts, 2019 BrandNew Turbo from Ford parts, had everything redone.
$15,000 and 3k miles Later, I started to get coolant in my oil slowly. Coolant levels depleting slowly. Loud ticking in the engine. It’s been back to the same shop 4 times and they have an excuse for every problem such as “the milky oil must be from condensation in the crank when we had the engine off”. NOTHING is under warranty because the truck has been fully deleted since 40k miles. It is now at 150k.
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Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2019
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From: Hunterdon Cnty N.J.
I know... I understand the OPs predicament... its really a drag. Starting right from the 13 needing an engine. Unless hes running a hot shot ... with normal use that truck should still be ok.
He did say reputable... but on my screen there was a box with an X inside on both sides of that. Im picturing quotes... that sucks. If it were my business I would stand behind my work even if it cost me money. But really it might not be the shop. It may well have been a defective component.
It will be interesting to see how he makes out. Hope he gets some satisfaction...
He did say reputable... but on my screen there was a box with an X inside on both sides of that. Im picturing quotes... that sucks. If it were my business I would stand behind my work even if it cost me money. But really it might not be the shop. It may well have been a defective component.
It will be interesting to see how he makes out. Hope he gets some satisfaction...
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2018
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From: Cheboygan Mi
Man this sucks, the main advice given here, do not drive it, dont even start it up, your doing more damage every rotation of the crank. Do lots of home work and find a reputable shop, you may have to start over and they can salvage some of the parts off this engine or you can resell it. Take lots of pictures for your lawsuit, what ever direction it goes.
good luck
good luck
Lead Driver
Joined: Dec 2016
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From: GA
Why spend that kind of money on a conversion into a vehicle that wasn’t designed for said power train instead of just using the same money to put a 6.7 that was made for the 2013 SD.
I would think that a considerable amount of money would have been saved and one would not be dealing with said issues.
I would think that a considerable amount of money would have been saved and one would not be dealing with said issues.
Cargo Master
Joined: Mar 2002
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From: W (BY GOD) V
Engine Warranty
Complete Diesel Engine and Long Block Assemblies
- Coverage runs 24 months from the warranty start date with unlimited miles. During this period, Ford will cover 100% of all parts and labor at approved warranty reimbursement rates
- If installed by a dealer, reasonable towing charges (up to 35 miles or to the nearest Dealer) are covered only if the vehicle is not covered under other towing insurance coverage
Diesel Engine Stripped Long Blocks and Short Blocks
- These products are covered for 12 months from the warranty start date (unlimited miles). Ford will cover 100% of all parts and labor at approved warranty reimbursement rates
- If installed by a dealer, reasonable towing charges (up to 35 miles or to the nearest Dealer) are covered only if the vehicle is not covered under another towing insurance coverage
Over-The-Counter (Sold by a Dealer or Installer)
This statement applies to "over-the-counter" customers of a Dealer or Installer, such as a retail or fleet customer. Specific customer actions are required to receive Warranty Reimbursement for assemblies sold "Over-The-Counter." The over-the-counter customer (retail, fleet or general installer) can, at their option:- Return the vehicle to the Dealer from which the assembly was purchased, during regular business hours for repair by the Dealer, or
- Return the defective Ford or Motorcraft® remanufactured diesel engine to the Dealer (from which the assembly was purchased) during regular business hours for repair by the Dealer, or
- Obtain replacement parts or assembly from the Dealer that sold the Ford or Motorcraft® remanufactured engine and completing repairs using labor supplied by the over-the-counter customer
COMPLETE WARRANTY STATEMENT HERE - https://www.powerstrokediesel.com/index/143