Warranty Plate Decode Request
Mountain Pass
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From: Seattle
Oops, I should have said C3TE-9510-D, corrected above...
The C3TE-9510-D is the engineering no., and what is actually stamped on the front face of the air horn. It is also used in the service manual for identification of components and adjustments.
The corresponding part number is C3TZ-9510-D, which was replaced by C3TZ-9510-C, also serviced as a Motorcraft CA-243.
Then that was superseded by a C9HZ-9510-E, also serviced as a Motorcraft CA-630.
The parts book I have covers '64 thru '70, all trucks which used the 534 (F, T, N, C series) and it looks like everything from '64 thru '69 used the same version, then in '70 a different version shows up, which I suspect was when the Imco/electric gadget showed up. The last version, the C9HZ-E, also shows up as a service replacement on the 477 engines, even though it doesn't match the calibration/jetting for the original 477 carb.
It's probably much ado about nothing, the gasoline blends available now are so different than anything tested in the late fifties, so re-jetting and tinkering is probably required to really do it right.
Is yours not in running condition, or missing?
Cheers
The C3TE-9510-D is the engineering no., and what is actually stamped on the front face of the air horn. It is also used in the service manual for identification of components and adjustments.
The corresponding part number is C3TZ-9510-D, which was replaced by C3TZ-9510-C, also serviced as a Motorcraft CA-243.
Then that was superseded by a C9HZ-9510-E, also serviced as a Motorcraft CA-630.
The parts book I have covers '64 thru '70, all trucks which used the 534 (F, T, N, C series) and it looks like everything from '64 thru '69 used the same version, then in '70 a different version shows up, which I suspect was when the Imco/electric gadget showed up. The last version, the C9HZ-E, also shows up as a service replacement on the 477 engines, even though it doesn't match the calibration/jetting for the original 477 carb.
It's probably much ado about nothing, the gasoline blends available now are so different than anything tested in the late fifties, so re-jetting and tinkering is probably required to really do it right.
Is yours not in running condition, or missing?
Cheers
Cargo Master
Joined: Dec 2015
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From: Harned, Ky
You don't lose the governor function on a 534 when you replace the factory carb with a 1850, 534 has a mechanical governor that controls the throttle linkage, not like the vacuum governor on the 391 FT series.
Mountain Pass
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From: Seattle
True, but you will have to fab up your own linkage to hook it up, depending on what the new carb has for throttle arm geometry, holes, bends, etc. and adjust it accordingly. Just pointing out that it might need some tinkering out of the box...
I seem to remember you've already done this with a 1850 or 3310? I may be going down this road soon, wondering what worked out the best without spending a fortune.
I seem to remember you've already done this with a 1850 or 3310? I may be going down this road soon, wondering what worked out the best without spending a fortune.
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Trailering
Joined: Mar 2020
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From: Wisconsin, USA
Thank you!
So if the stamped number is C3TE-9510-D, C3TE-9510-C or C3TE-9510-E, they would all be compatible?
The original carb was tossed by someone that didn't know any better and replaced with a "high performance" one. The truck had other issues (ignition) that had nothing to do with the carb so it has never been driven with the incorrect carb. I am restoring this truck and replacing the incorrect carb with the correct one. The previous owner said "the housing cracked" so he threw the old one away. So I don't have much to go off of here.
So if the stamped number is C3TE-9510-D, C3TE-9510-C or C3TE-9510-E, they would all be compatible?
The original carb was tossed by someone that didn't know any better and replaced with a "high performance" one. The truck had other issues (ignition) that had nothing to do with the carb so it has never been driven with the incorrect carb. I am restoring this truck and replacing the incorrect carb with the correct one. The previous owner said "the housing cracked" so he threw the old one away. So I don't have much to go off of here.
Mountain Pass
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From: Seattle
The C3TE-951-D and C3TE-9510-C stamps are good, I can't confirm the last one, as it was listed only as a supersede for the first two.
You can also search for a "List R-2156" stamping as this was the Holley identification if it was not procured through the Ford system.
There are a few of these on Ebay now, but look like only cores for rebuild.
Do you know exactly what "high-performance" carb is on there now? Maybe it's good enough to do test runs, especially if there might be other issues with the truck.
534 stuff is out there , you just don't know when it's gonna pop up on a search, so I just work on other stuff while searching. If you ever run across a good water pump or exhaust manifold, don't pass them up!
You can also search for a "List R-2156" stamping as this was the Holley identification if it was not procured through the Ford system.
There are a few of these on Ebay now, but look like only cores for rebuild.
Do you know exactly what "high-performance" carb is on there now? Maybe it's good enough to do test runs, especially if there might be other issues with the truck.
534 stuff is out there , you just don't know when it's gonna pop up on a search, so I just work on other stuff while searching. If you ever run across a good water pump or exhaust manifold, don't pass them up!
Ford Parts Specialist
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From: Simi Valley, CA
Hi Bill, I need help with a few more parts please:
Can you direct me to what I should search for to find a replacement stock carb for this truck? When I search for carbs for the 534 I get different year ranges and I want to find the correct one for 1964.
Also can you provide me the part number of the ignition switch and ignition switch lock cylinder?
Can you direct me to what I should search for to find a replacement stock carb for this truck? When I search for carbs for the 534 I get different year ranges and I want to find the correct one for 1964.
Also can you provide me the part number of the ignition switch and ignition switch lock cylinder?
No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any. There's a user on ebay, $29.95. Description shows a new Ford parts carton, so is it used or not?
There are 7 carb tune up kits (C1TZ-9A586-G) and 7 carb master overhaul kits (C1TZ-9590-N) available NOS // GREEN SALES CO. has both = 800-543-4959.
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C3AZ-11572-A .. Ignition Switch (Motorcraft SW-353) / Obsolete ~ Available NOS, from repro parts sellers and auto parts stores.
C3AZ-11582-A.. Ignition Switch Lock Cylinder (Motorcraft SW-351) / Obsolete ~ Same sources as above.
These two parts fit a gazillion different 1960/66 FoMoCo vehicles (1965/66 Mustang for example), so both should be EZ to find in parts stores.
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Trailering
Joined: Mar 2020
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From: Wisconsin, USA
Hi again Bill. Looking for recommendations around three more parts.
I wanted to get the tachometer working on this truck. Mechanic says it is a non-electronic tachometer and has a rotating cable (similar to a speedo cable) that goes from the engine up to the cluster.
Can you help me identify this part number?
I am also looking for the part numbers for the oil pressure and temperature sending units.
Thanks again for all the help!
I wanted to get the tachometer working on this truck. Mechanic says it is a non-electronic tachometer and has a rotating cable (similar to a speedo cable) that goes from the engine up to the cluster.
Can you help me identify this part number?
I am also looking for the part numbers for the oil pressure and temperature sending units.
Thanks again for all the help!
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Ford Parts Specialist
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From: Simi Valley, CA
Hi again Bill. Looking for recommendations around three more parts.
I wanted to get the tachometer working on this truck. Mechanic says it is a non-electronic tachometer and has a rotating cable (similar to a speedo cable) that goes from the engine up to the cluster.
Can you help me identify this part number?
I am also looking for the part numbers for the oil pressure and temperature sending units.
Thanks again for all the help!
I wanted to get the tachometer working on this truck. Mechanic says it is a non-electronic tachometer and has a rotating cable (similar to a speedo cable) that goes from the engine up to the cluster.
Can you help me identify this part number?
I am also looking for the part numbers for the oil pressure and temperature sending units.
Thanks again for all the help!
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Trailering
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From: Wisconsin, USA
I am also wondering about if there is an oil pressure sending unit and temperature sending unit for those gauges also.
This truck is running and driving now! I am almost done with the parts to get it back on the road. Thanks everyone for all of your help.
This truck is running and driving now! I am almost done with the parts to get it back on the road. Thanks everyone for all of your help.
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