Toyo has a 50k warranty on some of their 10-ply LT tires. Mine do. I believe there are a couple other brands that have it now as well.

 

I had a pair of Ironman tires on my old 3/4 ton Suburban. They were 10 ply and more of a highway type tread. They were horrible!! They weren’t on there very long, I couldn’t stand them. They were noisy and couldn’t get them to balance. I eventually replaced all 4 tires with Toyo ATII’s and they were much quieter and had much better traction obviously but they also had a slight vibration that drove me nuts right around 70 mph which is where I run on the interstate.

 

interesting
so you had the M/T tire that was noisy and balanced badly

Then switched to Toyo A/T and was slightly better ? But still had a vibration past 70mph ?

i’m not set on a MT tire but I do understand that type will be noisier and more aggressive on the road.

from my 25yrs of truck driving I’ve had from boggers to M&H racemasters. I’ve understood how what tires dry under certain conditions. And I’ve also seen what tires are all name brand. I’m ok with some name fame but after I’ve run them and seen all I did was overpaid, leaves a bad taste.

just keeping my options open.
if I wanted a smoother driving vehicle I would’ve bought a luxury SUV. But I prefer my big train driving truck.

 

No, he said the Ironman tires were more of a highway tread.

 

No, the Ironman tires were a highway tread and the Toyos were all terrain. The Toyos hummed a little bit but not bad at all considering how aggressive looking they were. The Ironmans were annoyingly noisy, and the vibration was ridiculous. I had only bought two at the time because the original tires were getting thin and I at least wanted decent tires on the steer axle. They were so horrible I took them back to have rebalanced but there wasn’t much improvement. I rotated them to the back and it was still too much noise and vibration. I’m just telling you my experience with these tires. Yes they were cheap but sometimes you get what you pay for. BTW, I’ll probably not buy another set of Toyos either.

 

In my experience, you get what you pay for in a tire. They are your connection to the surface on which you drive. Cheaper tires will not have the same high quality of materials, same durability, same engineering and R&D behind them that a name brand tire will have. But that doesn't mean there aren't applications when cheaper tires are good enough

I have a set of Ironman tires on my 94 TBird, which replaced a set of name brand tires. I do not care for them at all. The rubber compound is much harder than other tires I have used. Because of this, the tires break loose very easily (which is saying something since the car has an absolutely anemic 4.6L), they ride very stiffly even after trying to adjust air pressure to make them ride smoother, and they are very loud. I wouldn't buy another set of Ironman tires for this application.

I have also used several sets of Nankang Mudstar tires on several trucks and would buy more. They are super cheap (the set of 265/75R16Es on my 03 F350 were $410 shipped to my door, and the 315/75R16Es on my 94 F350 pulling truck were just under $600 shipped), they wear quickly (about 35-40k miles per set) but have not had any issue with being out of balance or breaking belts, and they perform well enough for what I am doing, as they are on vehicles that are not driven daily.

I have a set of Cooper Discoverer STT Pros on my 89 F350, much better tire all around than the Nankangs, but they were over twice the price for the same size tire. Much quieter, much better traction on and off road, much better wet pavement and snow performance. I think I paid just over $1000 shipped for these, as they were a set of blems with scuffed white lettering, which brings me to my next point...

Search for blemished tires on eBay. Sometimes you can save a few hundred dollars on a set of good, name brand tires because they have small cosmetic defects.

 

got it, I’m not justifying either tire, I appreciate your feedback. I’ve almost crossed Ironman tires off the list. Several buddies have mentioned Patriot tires and some are on a few other off brands.

i’m in no rush to buy so I’m not gonna jump the gun. But I want a decent not over priced tire.

 

the STT pros have always been a favorite, I had a set several trucks back. 2 tire shops, both owners run these. The set of those is also close to $1400.

gonna keep looking to see what’s out there.

 

so if you tow heavy and wear them off in 25k, they’ll cover it? I think not.

To the OP: I’ve had good luck with Hankook. Would buy again.

 

I have always just searched the size or sizes I would want and found the best deal on a name brand tire.

Have run a lot of different tires over the years.

I run an offbrand mud tire on my K10 and I am putting Super Swampers on my 79 Jimmy. They will dry rot before I even need to rotate them. I would maybe run an offbrand mud tire on my 2019 F250 if it went to like hunting duty truck only or something, just too much of a chance of someone bitching about a loud rough riding tire while riding in it.

 

LOL I ain’t worried about anyone bitching while driving in my truck, well except the wifey. Anyone else don’t have a say-so.

i ran 40” boggers on my 79 F150, loved that thing, straight wore those tires out. McD’s drive thru was fun, especially ordering over the motor 🤪.

the search still continues on this one for which tires to install. Maybe boggers...

 

Toyo's all the time....buy once, cry once.

buy cheap, pay twice or more..............

 

Just like any treadwear warranty, they are pro-rated. If I wear a set out in 25k, I will get 50% off a new set. Please show me where "towing heavy" voids this:

 

if you pay half price but twice is it actually more ?

lets say the cheaper option only last 30k miles, but toyo last 50k, which was more expensive?

 

I get what you are saying. But then you have the headache of spending the afternoon at a tire shop getting them swapped almost twice as often. Will the cheaper tires balance and not be out-of-round? Will the belts hold up (not develop a bulge/knot)? Will the tread chunk bad on gravel roads/driveways? Will they dry-rot/weather check/crack sooner? And also, like you mentioned, how will the treadlife hold up?...and many more questions...

The chances are greater for a "cheap" tire to have these issues. But then again, some people out there think Goodyears are cheap and will only buy Michelins...
The main thing to take away from this, is that the "name brand" tires are usually more consistent at being a quality tire all around. The cheaper tires tend to lean more towards hit-or-miss in the quality department. You may buy a set of Ironmans and be perfectly happy with them for 40k miles. Then, the next set you buy may have tread separation and take off your entire bedside at 75mph....or you come out to your truck after work and there is a softball size bubble on the sidewall...

My Toyo's were $800, so it was an easy decision for me. If I were in your shoes...I'd probably be weighing my options too!