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Old Feb 24, 2020 | 09:18 PM
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V10 cold start chatter

I have a 2000 Ex 6.8 with 268k. No idea about any of the service history, etc. Just bought the truck a few months ago.

Just a couple days ago, I was actually outside/around my truck during a cold start (instead of being inside the house or inside the truck). For the first five minutes (almost exactly five) I get a good bit of chatter, diesel-like, even valvetrain-ish. But by the 5 minute mark, it's all gone and running smooth as a baby's behind.

My oil level is right where it should be, top of the hash marks on the stick. I have a Motorcraft oil filter.

What gives? Is it just the age? I'd figure if it were something detrimental, it wouldn't stop after warm-up, but then i don't know these motors that well.

Give me the 411 boys.

Edit: also, it doesn't chatter immediately. It's not until maybe 30 seconds in.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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You have to locate the sound with a stethoscope - check the valve covers, and the timing chain cover.

My '01 with only 60K miles on it would clack on cold start - sounded like the chain. It was 19 years old when I sold it last year, but it did it for a few years before that. In the spring/summer/fall I'd put 10W40 Castrol GTX in it, and it would go away. Winter months, 5w30 was enough.

 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
You have to locate the sound with a stethoscope - check the valve covers, and the timing chain cover.

My '01 with only 60K miles on it would clack on cold start - sounded like the chain. It was 19 years old when I sold it last year, but it did it for a few years before that. In the spring/summer/fall I'd put 10W40 Castrol GTX in it, and it would go away. Winter months, 5w30 was enough.
Would the Harbor Freight stethoscope suffice, or should I get something like a Lisle on Amazon?

The dealership just did my change with 5w20. Should I be going a little thicker?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 10:13 AM
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You can use a long screwdriver or a piece of broom handle, just touch one end to the valve cover, the other to the bony area right in front of your ear. Careful - side-load it as much as possible so the engine shaking doesn't hurt your head
 
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Old May 28, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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The low mileage 09 clatters for about 30 seconds when cold started.
 
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Old May 28, 2020 | 11:22 AM
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Its probably the well documented piston slap at cold start. Some engines have it and some don't I don't think its ever been a cause of damage.
 
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piston slap goes away that quickly?
 
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Old May 28, 2020 | 08:02 PM
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piston slap goes away that quickly?
Yes! Once the pistons warm up the sound goes away.
 
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