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Old Feb 24, 2020 | 08:41 AM
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Hello again, I have a 89 Clubwagon xl with a 302 auto. When I bought it it ran a little rough, and started a little hard. I have since changed plugs, wires, the entire distributor, the fuel pressure regulator and I also replaced the transmission lines and filter. Now it will not start! I have good spark and fuel pressure at the schrader valve ( about 40 psi) I back probed the injectors and no power at all not sure what’s next any help helps thanks
 
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Old Feb 24, 2020 | 02:06 PM
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Upon further inspection I found a small amount of white crusty shmaltz on the bottom of the Ecm could this kill only the injectors? It will try to pop off with a little puff of starting fluid but I’m not a big fan of it. Any help helps thanks
 
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Old Feb 24, 2020 | 11:21 PM
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Check your grounds. I think the ecm grounds through the mounting to the body so check that it isn't corroded. That '89 should have about 50 lbs. at key-on and 40 while idling. It should actually run with starting fluid for a couple seconds not just a little puff. Make sure your firing order isn't off.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 08:41 AM
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So, the ground is a braided strap and it is like new. I am leaning towards the ecm as there is stuff growing out of it and it is visually swollen. I will recheck the firing order and see what’s what. Any help helps thanks.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 10:47 AM
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Ok, firing order checked from the #1 marked post working ccw it is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 so I’m good there all of the fuel pumps kick on( one in each tank) and the hp pump on the frame rail, I have great spark, checked the coil and each plug, when I say a little puff I mean a millisecond from about a foot away like I said not a huge fan of the go juice.it wants it but the injectors have no power, key on, cranking,acc nothing I tried 6 of 8 injectors (2 and 3 are buried under the intake) both wires. I am so stumped
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 02:18 PM
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So, I pulled the ecm and found a couple charred spots on the board , new one on the way. . . .
 
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 02:19 PM
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Old Mar 3, 2020 | 12:52 PM
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Update I have installed the new ecm and I still have no power to the injectors what should I do next?
 
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Could be you've lost the injector signal due a bad connection from the ECM to the injectors OR a relay or fuse has failed. I'm not familiar with that chassis and engine so don't know it's electrical layout so am totally guessing.

Its possible the burns on the just replaced ECM are related to the loss of electrical signal to the injectors---I would bet they're related.

 
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Old Mar 4, 2020 | 09:33 PM
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So my next move is going to be removing the engine wiring harness and starting the search for the problem
 
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 06:29 AM
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In your first post you said you tuned it up as well as changed the distributor. Did it start and run after all of that work or did it quit starting during part of that work?
Have you tried pulling codes? Have you checked all of the fuses and relays? My van is a 1988 with a 5.0 and yours should be about the same. The injectors should have constant 12 volts when the ignition switch is in the run or start position and the ECM switches the grounds. Do you have 12 volts at the injectors with the ignition switch on?


You mentioned the braided ground strap for the ECM. Is the ECM support bracket that the ground strap fastens to in tact? Mine was broken on the bottom. The bracket works a clamp to ground the ECM.






 
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 10:33 AM
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Yup - the braided strap goes from the dash frame to the bracket, but if your bracket is broken, no ground to ECM.

I made a new bracket for mine out of sheet metal when I broke mine:

https://imgur.com/a/1QCyPWu
 
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 11:02 AM
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The strap is in good shape,and the bracket is like new. I even took a piece of 120 grit sand paper and scuffed the ground strap connections. When I purchased the van it had already been worked on, also I pulled a rodent nest out from under the intake.(1-2-3-4 side) I found a vac line melted due to not being routed correctly I can only hope for a chewed or pinched wire any input is welcomed and I will keep updating until it runs.
 
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I may be on to something. I should not have continuity on the plug for any of the injectors correct? The battery is out and the key is out.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2020 | 12:29 PM
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Even with the four main harness connections taken apart the injectors are showing continuity
 
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