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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 05:57 PM
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Does adding rear sway bar change payload?

I'm adding the factory rear sway bar to my F350, just wondering if that gives any additional payload capacity? I know legally by the sticker it doesn't but does it in reality, or does it lower payload due to added weight?

I know there are better sway bar options aftermarket, dont need to hear about the other options.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 06:30 PM
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No, a sway bar doesn’t affect capacity, the lower side, pushes DOWN the higher side to stop from tipping over, transferring weight across the truck. Especially good for large loads like campers, and heavy pin weight trailers.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 07:20 PM
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Nothing adds capacity. All the Air Bags, Timbrens, Stable Loads, Sway Bars, Adjustable Shocks, Tires, Wheels and everything in-between do nothing more than adding Stability.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 07:21 PM
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It will reduce your payload. Literally everything you add will reduce payload.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 08:01 PM
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It will reduce your payload. Literally everything you add will reduce payload.
True. If the sway bar weighs 50#, it will reduce your payload by 50#.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 67L48
It will reduce your payload. Literally everything you add will reduce payload.
yup....although it's an asinine question lol
 
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Jacobi
I'm adding the factory rear sway bar to my F350, just wondering if that gives any additional payload capacity? I know legally by the sticker it doesn't but does it in reality, or does it lower payload due to added weight?

I know there are better sway bar options aftermarket, dont need to hear about the other options.
How did you go about ordering the OEM sway bar ? I went to ford with my ViN and they weren’t able to pull part numbers

 
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 06:57 AM
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You should be able to go to a Ford parts dealer website, enter your truck info, and then look through the parts lists and diagrams.

For example, from Tasca Parts:


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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Jacobi
I'm adding the factory rear sway bar to my F350, just wondering if that gives any additional payload capacity? I know legally by the sticker it doesn't but does it in reality, or does it lower payload due to added weight?

I know there are better sway bar options aftermarket, dont need to hear about the other options.
The OEM unit is about like a strand of spaghetti vs the Big Wig or others.


OEM Vs Hellwig Big Wig
 
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mattymax
How did you go about ordering the OEM sway bar ? I went to ford with my ViN and they weren’t able to pull part numbers
In another post on here someone had done it and posted all the part numbers needed. Ordered them Thursday and they came in Saturday, picking them up Tuesday and probably install Friday afternoon. Not sure what total cost is yet, around $250 I think. The bar comes with the bushings according to the other post. I believe this is 17'-19' models, not sure about 2020 models.
Link to the other post, there are pictures way down on the first page and I think more on the next pages. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...way-bar-4.html

Parts list:
HC3Z-5A772-A BAR (1)
7C3Z-5486-B RETAINER (2)
HC3Z-5K484-D LINK (2)
HC3Z-5L499-A BRACKET (2)
W500634-S309 BOLT (4)
W500644-S439 BOLT (4)
W520214-S440 NUT (4)
W717462-S439 NUT (4)
 
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
The OEM unit is about like a strand of spaghetti vs the Big Wig or others.


OEM Vs Hellwig Big Wig
Exactly this!

I dont know why anyone would spend the money to add the oem rear sway bar after the fact. Go with Hellwig or Road Master.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
The OEM unit is about like a strand of spaghetti vs the Big Wig or others.


OEM Vs Hellwig Big Wig
Because a strand of spaghetti is better than the nothing I have now and I have Ford Pass points to pay for it. I just bought a 5th wheel and my cash needs to go to a $1000 hitch now... Plus I'd like to see how it is with this one and then if I need more, upgrade. Ride quality unloaded is also a factor I am taking into consideration. Keep in mind this is coming from a first time SD owner (or any kind of HD truck for that matter) so the rough ride is not something I am used to starting out. I don't mind it so much but then there is the wife....
 
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 10:02 AM
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A sway bar is not going to help ride quality. A sway bar helps distribute weight while turning to reduce body roll and can be beneficial if the truck is carrying extra weight and making turns; however, it does nothing for unloaded ride quality just going down the road. If ride quality is a concern, look at springs, shocks, stabilizer, and wheel balancers. Also, the wife might like the ride better when you put some weight in the back even if you don’t change out anything else.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Jacobi
Because a strand of spaghetti is better than the nothing I have now and I have Ford Pass points to pay for it. I just bought a 5th wheel and my cash needs to go to a $1000 hitch now... Plus I'd like to see how it is with this one and then if I need more, upgrade. Ride quality unloaded is also a factor I am taking into consideration. Keep in mind this is coming from a first time SD owner (or any kind of HD truck for that matter) so the rough ride is not something I am used to starting out. I don't mind it so much but then there is the wife....
OK, the OEM provides the bare min of Anti Sway and If you are pulling a 5th, I will be honest with you, I doubt you need a sway bar. Sway bar is for lateral stability and you have a single point of contact sitting in the bed of your truck on just about the centerline of your axle set. Your need for lateral stability is not high from what I can tell, especially since most 5th wheel set up with have about 10-20 degrees of lateral lean that is built into the unit.

Depending upon your pin weight = 10 - 15% of your 5th GVW you may need a set of Stableloads (uppers) that will cost you about the same and you can install them and not even jack up your truck.

I have run antisway on 3 trucks that carried my almost 5000 lb payload Truck Camper and I also had the Stableloads on the truck. The OEM swaybar is not going to make its presence felt!!!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
A sway bar is not going to help ride quality. A sway bar helps distribute weight while turning to reduce body roll and can be beneficial if the truck is carrying extra weight and making turns; however, it does nothing for unloaded ride quality just going down the road. If ride quality is a concern, look at springs, shocks, stabilizer, and wheel balancers. Also, the wife might like the ride better when you put some weight in the back even if you don’t change out anything else.
I am not looking for it to help improve ride quality, especially unloaded. My concern is unloaded ride quality from a huge super stiff sway bar. I have read in other posts that the bigger bar like the Hellwig one causes a much stiffer ride. Anyway, I'll take my chances on this stock one and if I feel like it isn't helping with the 5er enough then I'll eat the extra cost of going up to a Hellwig but I can put that off for a while. The hitch I cannot put off....
 
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