What do you think the odds are of getting the new 10spd transmission to mount up to the older powerstrokes that have the 6spd transmission? I am sure it would be expensive, but if you are in the market for a new transmission anyways, might be a good option if that is at all a viable one. What do you guys think?

 

You're talking a different ECM and possibly different mounting bolt pattern plus where the starter would go. I know it's the same 6.7 block but maybe something had changed. Plus the programming software for the new 10 speed trans is different then ours and the new trucks also use a different transfer case then our 11 to 16s. You could possibly get a separate aftermarket trans controller. Money, this would take a sheet ton of money. I not an expert but just surmising that if you didn't put in the 2020 engine with it, chances are it wouldn't work.

 

Guess i didn't realize so much had changed, figured it would be a simple install and program deal lol.... Well there goes that idea. I like the 3.55 for interstate driving but for towing it blows..

 

Well, just found out that the new 10 speed trans is the same physical size as the 6r140. From here:

"a brand new 10-speed sturdy TorqShift automatic transmission that Eckert states were “made and examined for the sturdy consumer.” Super Responsibility’s new electronically regulated TorqShift is essentially similar to the 10-speed that debuted on F-150 in 2014 yet according to the supervisor of 2020 Ford Super Duty 10 Speed Transmission transmission systems, Greg Stout, it was a “tidy sheet design” that generated “a very beefy, very qualified transmission.”

” It shares the exact same style and power flow– the very same number of clutches and the very same number of worldly equipment– but the parts are larger, beefier, stronger, simply to match the engine ability,” Stout claims. “This transmission actually has less than 10 percent components in common with the F-150 transmission. And also those are points that don’t carry any kind of torque since this transmission was created to specifically match the new [engines] This certainly has a great deal greater torque demands and consumer duty cycle demands than our F-150.”



“This transmission is engineered to take care of more misuse in regards to greater weight scores as well as tons,” adds Chris Brewer, Ford’s lead driveline system designer. “It manages two times as much input as well as twice as much load [compared to the F-150 transmission]” It additionally includes a broader equipment ratio span than the current generation 6-speed. Taller first gears ought to suggest much easier startup for 2020 Ford Super Duty 10 Speed Transmission heaviest vehicles, as well as enhanced step ratios in between equipment, will certainly allow for maximized powertrain matching.

“With the broader equipment span,” Filipe claims, “we’re going to have the ability to optimize the shift points … to make this a smooth moving transmission.” It has selectable drive settings that consist of typical, tow/haul, eco, unsafe, and deep sand and snow. Even with 4 extra gears, the new 10 rate fits in the same room as the 6-speed while evaluating only 3.5 extra pounds more."


Also check out:


https://www.tfltruck.com/2017/08/202...140-f250-f350/

https://www.autoinfluence.com/11-thi...-transmission/


Plus you have to consider that with the 2020s just out, there's no way you could get a 10r140 cheap, at all. You would be paying big bucks for it from the factory. Plus what aftermarket trans controller company would have developed software for it because it's so new and just out. Again, if you had enough money, basically bottomless pockets, anything could be done. But it sure wouldn't be cheap.

 

“made and examined for the sturdy consumer.”
That's funny right there!

 

I wasn't necessarily saying do it right now since it just came out, but rather in the future, I wonder if anyone would have a kit for that. We can swap tranmissions between certain motors, i suppose if the demand was high enough anything could be done. Just makes a guy think i guess..

 

Nothing wrong with that. I do that a lot also. Sounds like it would bolt right in place for the 6.7 Powerstroke trucks of pre 2020 but you would need an aftermarket trans controller. There would have to be a way of integrating it with your ECM also.

For my 96 F250, I had the engine rebuild at 91k miles and had it bored out. I then got an ECM from a Mustang 5.8 manual. I went from speed density with the original ECM to mass air with the Mustang computer.

I don't know how that would work for our trucks. I'm sure if someone is successful at doing the swap with a pre 20 6.7 and there is enough interest in it, you would possibly see a 10r140 swap kit. Time will tell.

 

Dave, he said to replace the old 6spd. The only PowerStroke trucks with the 6 spd are the 2011 to 2019 diesel or gas. So engine to transmission mounting and starter ought to be the same. Some company might devise a TCM to control the 10 spd. Not sure how much the ECM/PCM actually controls the currnt 6 spd as they do have the TCM.

Also, some of the 2020's PS are still going to use the 6spd. I believe those are the 6.2 gas engine.

 

I thinking old school I guess. I overlook and don't realize at times all the separate modules in the new vehicles.