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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 07:57 PM
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Fifth wheel prep package

Looking at a 450 and since the prep package comes with it , what are my options for a conventional 5th wheel hitch using the rails ?

Can I install my rails like normal ? I guess not

Some kind of adapter that will raise my already high hitch ?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 08:10 PM
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Ford sells a hitch that drops into the pucks that come with the GN/5ver prep. If you don't want to buy the Ford product there are aftermarket hitches that still use the pucks as mounting points.
You will have to check with your hitch mfg and see if they have a rail system uses the pucks
 
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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 08:42 PM
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Lots of aftermarket 5th wheel hitch manufacturers make hitches for the Ford puck system. If you buy a used hitch, be aware that puck systems between different brands (Ford, Dodge, GM, Nissan, etc) are not interchangeable. You must get one for a Ford. You can use a rail style hitch (minus the actual rails) in a newer Ford with a puck system. You must use an adapter that Reese sells. I would not attempt to put rails in a truck with a puck system.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 08:44 PM
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I'm pretty sure you can't install conventional rails with the puck system already in place, at least I wouldn't want to do that. You have a couple of options: (1) Sell your hitch and get one works with the puck or gooseneck connections or (2) get an adapter plate that mounts to the pucks and has the slots for a conventional hitch (see Reese R-30156 or Demco 6175). Downside is the Reese will raise your hitch by 3 1/4 inches and the Demco less than 2. The Reese is the lighter of the two. I got the Reese when I had my 17 F350 dual to use with a Trailer Saver BD3 air ride hitch. I had to lower the hitch to its lowest setting and my pin box to its highest and I was still just a bit nose high.

I just sold my BD3 and got a Reese Goose Box to go with my new truck. I'm in the process of getting it mounted on my fifth wheel now. The only thing that will be in my bed is a 5 pound gooseneck ball.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FishRanger
I'm pretty sure you can't install conventional rails with the puck system already in place, at least I wouldn't want to do that. You have a couple of options: (1) Sell your hitch and get one works with the puck or gooseneck connections or (2) get an adapter plate that mounts to the pucks and has the slots for a conventional hitch (see Reese R-30156 or Demco 6175). Downside is the Reese will raise your hitch by 3 1/4 inches and the Demco less than 2. The Reese is the lighter of the two. I got the Reese when I had my 17 F350 dual to use with a Trailer Saver BD3 air ride hitch. I had to lower the hitch to its lowest setting and my pin box to its highest and I was still just a bit nose high.

I just sold my BD3 and got a Reese Goose Box to go with my new truck. I'm in the process of getting it mounted on my fifth wheel now. The only thing that will be in my bed is a 5 pound gooseneck ball.
Yeah , my best option will be the demco 6175 , thanks !
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 06:01 AM
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That one that Ford will put in it is junk buy a different one.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tortue71
Yeah , my best option will be the demco 6175 , thanks !

Seems very overpriced for what it is. I bought my Curt 25k hitch that drops into the Ford pucks complete for under $700. As said before, you can often find them used and in perfect condition from Reese or Curt for well under $500. I sure wouldn't spend $500 for an adapter to use an old hitch when you can go new or almost new for around the same money. Then sell your old hitch and you'd come out ahead... Just my thoughts...
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tortue71
Looking at a 450 and since the prep package comes with it , what are my options for a conventional 5th wheel hitch using the rails ?

Can I install my rails like normal ? I guess not

Some kind of adapter that will raise my already high hitch ?
Yes you can use the ISR rails with the prop package if they work with the pucks.

OR you can use a 5th wheel that uses the gooseneck ball in your prep package. The Pullrite Superlite 20 k does, its what I used for my 5th wheel.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 08:02 AM
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Seems very overpriced for what it is. I bought my Curt 25k hitch that drops into the Ford pucks complete for under $700. As said before, you can often find them used and in perfect condition from Reese or Curt for well under $500. I sure wouldn't spend $500 for an adapter to use an old hitch when you can go new or almost new for around the same money. Then sell your old hitch and you'd come out ahead... Just my thoughts...
Yeah , that's the thing , I live in a place where I don't have a market for my hitch. I tried for a year to sell it... No luck. It's a 26k husky silver series on composite slider. It's an awesome hitch but there's is no market here. I even tried to sell it in Florida but I'm not there long enough and I don't know where to sell it beside market place.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Yes you can use the ISR rails with the prop package if they work with the pucks.

OR you can use a 5th wheel that uses the gooseneck ball in your prep package. The Pullrite Superlite 20 k does, its what I used for my 5th wheel.
Does the prep package come with a ball ?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 09:01 AM
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Prep package does not come with a ball. I bought mine on Amazon (with the emergency chain inserts also, comes as a package) for $140.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FishRanger
I'm pretty sure you can't install conventional rails with the puck system already in place, at least I wouldn't want to do that.

I have a hensley TS3 that I ordered with their version of a puck adapter plate.

That adapter is a drop in plate for the pucks and then gives you standard reese rail mounts. And it is probably no more then maybe an inch higher then reese rails bolted down flush to the bed.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tortue71
Does the prep package come with a ball ?
Yes it does
 
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 04:30 PM
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Yes it does
Haha you say yes and someone says no !
 
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tortue71
Haha you say yes and someone says no !
It came with my '15, '19 F 350's and my '20 F 450. That said you ONLY get it if you got that on the option sheet, if not then its a NO...
 
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