CCV mod
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IIRC, it is over $150 if you really want a good one instead of something looking like a beer can with steel wool. My only concern is whether I want the oily stain on the driveway which makes diagnosis of a leak much harder. As to other people bitching and moaning, well, I'm reminded of the story of The Old Man, The Boy and the Donkey.
It dont look like a beer can nor is it filled with utter **** that dont work.
https://www.amazon.com.au/6257511-Pr...98373084&psc=1
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Have you looked looked up the provent? Its made by Mann Hummel and regarded as one of the best on the market.
It dont look like a beer can nor is it filled with utter **** that dont work.
https://www.amazon.com.au/6257511-Pr...98373084&psc=1
It dont look like a beer can nor is it filled with utter **** that dont work.
https://www.amazon.com.au/6257511-Pr...98373084&psc=1
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venting a engine block is not so much for blow by but to give the volume of air that gets pumped by the under side of the piston somewhere to go without building up pressure like happens on the top side of the piston.
a 7.3 moves more air on the bottom side of the pistons then a 6.7 simply because it has .6 more displacement. .
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blow by is the air that leaks past the rings on the piston and is caused by wear or damage.
venting a engine block is not so much for blow by but to give the volume of air that gets pumped by the under side of the piston somewhere to go without building up pressure like happens on the top side of the piston.
a 7.3 moves more air on the bottom side of the pistons then a 6.7 simply because it has .6 more displacement. .
venting a engine block is not so much for blow by but to give the volume of air that gets pumped by the under side of the piston somewhere to go without building up pressure like happens on the top side of the piston.
a 7.3 moves more air on the bottom side of the pistons then a 6.7 simply because it has .6 more displacement. .
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blow by is the air that leaks past the rings on the piston and is caused by wear or damage.
venting a engine block is not so much for blow by but to give the volume of air that gets pumped by the under side of the piston somewhere to go without building up pressure like happens on the top side of the piston.
a 7.3 moves more air on the bottom side of the pistons then a 6.7 simply because it has .6 more displacement. .
venting a engine block is not so much for blow by but to give the volume of air that gets pumped by the under side of the piston somewhere to go without building up pressure like happens on the top side of the piston.
a 7.3 moves more air on the bottom side of the pistons then a 6.7 simply because it has .6 more displacement. .
Over my head i reckon
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FWIW, I ran my CCV to my exhaust for over 100k miles without issue. Sure, there were cries from ErnieGene and others about how the exhaust would send corrosive elements backwards through the hose to the valve cover, but those were unfounded. There was zero discoloration or corrosion in the dog house and valve cover areas, and I could see the fumes/mist exiting the tailpipe. It'd still be like that today if CA didn't change the smog laws on me 13 years into my truck ownership.
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FWIW, I ran my CCV to my exhaust for over 100k miles without issue. Sure, there were cries from ErnieGene and others about how the exhaust would send corrosive elements backwards through the hose to the valve cover, but those were unfounded. There was zero discoloration or corrosion in the dog house and valve cover areas, and I could see the fumes/mist exiting the tailpipe. It'd still be like that today if CA didn't change the smog laws on me 13 years into my truck ownership.
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First, WHY would you want to deviate from stock CCV plumbing?
There is nothing wrong with that at all. I’ve taken trucks apart that had MASSIVE blow-by from dead cylinders, etc and the most oil I’ve gotten out of a CAC barely makes a mess on the floor.
Crawl under the next T444 engine you see and tell me what it looks like from the draft tube back.
Some trucks/engines smoke and stink worse than others. All draft tubes will condense and drip the oil vapor they are handling.
The folks who didn’t like the smoke and stink often routed their CCV to the back of the truck. It was common to use heater hose for this because it’s readily available, inexpensive and the right size. In cold climates, moisture condenses and collects in low points of the hose and freezes - blocking the hose, creating crankcase pressure and blowing out seals.
IMHO, stock is best here and there is no ‘upgrade’.
There is nothing wrong with that at all. I’ve taken trucks apart that had MASSIVE blow-by from dead cylinders, etc and the most oil I’ve gotten out of a CAC barely makes a mess on the floor.
Crawl under the next T444 engine you see and tell me what it looks like from the draft tube back.
Some trucks/engines smoke and stink worse than others. All draft tubes will condense and drip the oil vapor they are handling.
The folks who didn’t like the smoke and stink often routed their CCV to the back of the truck. It was common to use heater hose for this because it’s readily available, inexpensive and the right size. In cold climates, moisture condenses and collects in low points of the hose and freezes - blocking the hose, creating crankcase pressure and blowing out seals.
IMHO, stock is best here and there is no ‘upgrade’.
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There is nothing wrong with that at all. I’ve taken trucks apart that had MASSIVE blow-by from dead cylinders, etc and the most oil I’ve gotten out of a CAC barely makes a mess on the floor.
The folks who didn’t like the smoke and stink often routed their CCV to the back of the truck. It was common to use heater hose for this because it’s readily available, inexpensive and the right size. In cold climates, moisture condenses and collects in low points of the hose and freezes - blocking the hose, creating crankcase pressure and blowing out seals.
IMHO, stock is best here and there is no ‘upgrade’.
The folks who didn’t like the smoke and stink often routed their CCV to the back of the truck. It was common to use heater hose for this because it’s readily available, inexpensive and the right size. In cold climates, moisture condenses and collects in low points of the hose and freezes - blocking the hose, creating crankcase pressure and blowing out seals.
IMHO, stock is best here and there is no ‘upgrade’.
If you don't have a dip where you can have condensate freeze, isn't that good?
Besides the oil drips, International is venting to atmosphere and it does not harm anything so it may be an upgrade if all you want is to not have the oily smoke in the intake but don't mind it on the floor.
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So how do you account for all the oil drips on the floor over the years?
If you don't have a dip where you can have condensate freeze, isn't that good?
Besides the oil drips, International is venting to atmosphere and it does not harm anything so it may be an upgrade if all you want is to not have the oily smoke in the intake but don't mind it on the floor.
If you don't have a dip where you can have condensate freeze, isn't that good?
Besides the oil drips, International is venting to atmosphere and it does not harm anything so it may be an upgrade if all you want is to not have the oily smoke in the intake but don't mind it on the floor.
There is is nothing wrong with CCV to atmosphere -aka ‘draft tube’ if you don’t mind the smoke, stink and mess (including drips).
There is nothing wrong with catch cans, etc either as long as they do not create obstruction. (Maintenance diligence is required).
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Do it right is what you are saying.
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If you must monkey with it, spend the money and add the maintenance task to your list.
Do you feel feel like your truck drips oil because CCV is factory?
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The same vapor has absolutely no downsides going in the intake. Maybe the CAC boots get a little dirty on the outside?? That just means it’s time to clean the engine!!
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The truck drips oil because while most of the CCV has gone into the atmosphere, there is condensate on the walls of the hose which drips off. I guess my question is this. What exactly happens to the oil that is deposited in the pipes and reports of oil having soaked through the hoses? Could it deteriorate, and thus compromise the integrity of the hose?
If so, 2 options remain. Put up with the oil drips or get a catch can.
If so, 2 options remain. Put up with the oil drips or get a catch can.