Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

5 speed issues

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 17, 2020 | 02:07 PM
  #1  
wahlturfcare's Avatar
wahlturfcare
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
5 speed issues

The other day my 1993 f350(460 4x4) tranny starting to not want to shift into reverse every now and then after it has been running for awhile(plowing). But if you pumped the pedal it would shift into reverse. Or go into second gear for a bit and then shift


But now all of a sudden it is very hard to get into 1st and especially 2nd gear.
Would a slave cylinder(external) cause it? 3,4 and over drive shift fine.
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2020 | 02:58 PM
  #2  
88n94's Avatar
88n94
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,118
Likes: 149
From: South Dakota
Have you checked the fluid level in the clutch master cylinder? How much free play in the clutch pedal? When you get it into gear, how far do you have to let the clutch pedal up before you feel the clutch grab?
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2020 | 03:55 PM
  #3  
wahlturfcare's Avatar
wahlturfcare
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Fluid is full, and about a inch in play. Sometimes it t feels stiffer than others
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2020 | 04:45 PM
  #4  
88n94's Avatar
88n94
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,118
Likes: 149
From: South Dakota
Does it shift into first and second gear easier with the engine shut off? Is the inch in free play at the top of the pedal, ie what I mean by free play when the pedal is all the way up how far do you have to push the pedal down before the pedal pushes somewhat harder, this is the point when the throwout bearing starts pushing on the pressure plate to start releasing the clutch? Does the amount of free play vary after you pump the pedal a few times?
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2020 | 04:47 PM
  #5  
jaleus's Avatar
jaleus
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
My pilot bearing needles were falling out when mine did that. They would jam up in there just enough to bind the clutch disk between the flywheel and the actuated pressure plate.
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2020 | 08:09 PM
  #6  
oldproudvet's Avatar
oldproudvet
Tuned
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 372
Likes: 15
From: Central Minnesota
Clutch slave. Larry
 
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2020 | 09:33 PM
  #7  
mountainkowboy's Avatar
mountainkowboy
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 188
Likes: 4
Red did the same thin.....change the slave for the clutch
 
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2020 | 12:20 PM
  #8  
Diesel_Brad's Avatar
Diesel_Brad
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 21,437
Likes: 76
From: Gilbert, PA
Check your linkage at the pedal. there is a plastic bushing there that tend to go bad. They actually make a heim joint to replace it
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Jan 19, 2020 | 02:06 PM
  #9  
sloopdog1's Avatar
sloopdog1
Senior User
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 397
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
Check your linkage at the pedal. there is a plastic bushing there that tend to go bad. They actually make a heim joint to replace it
Well, you can buy the plastic bushing at most auto parts stores. The heim joint fix is a very good fix, but lots of work. I made a bushing from brass, snapped it onto where the worn out plastic part went. Works great and not nearly as hard to do as the heim joint. Bad part Is you need access to a lathe for about 15 minutes.
 
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2020 | 11:21 PM
  #10  
wahlturfcare's Avatar
wahlturfcare
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
I checked that first thing and there is zero play because I put a grease zert there yrs ago.
the pedal goes down half way or alittle more before I can shift into first.
Sometimes I can get it to go into second while running, other times it acts like a brick wall. With the truck off, all gears shift fine.
 
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2020 | 04:45 AM
  #11  
Diesel_Brad's Avatar
Diesel_Brad
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 21,437
Likes: 76
From: Gilbert, PA
Originally Posted by wahlturfcare
I checked that first thing and there is zero play because I put a grease zert there yrs ago.
the pedal goes down half way or alittle more before I can shift into first.
Sometimes I can get it to go into second while running, other times it acts like a brick wall. With the truck off, all gears shift fine.

where did you put a grease zerK? There is no room where the pedal assem attaches to the master cylinder rod
 
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2020 | 01:50 PM
  #12  
wahlturfcare's Avatar
wahlturfcare
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
I added the grease zert between the pedals and fill it all the time.
but I checked the pedal with the motor running and the shifter(1st) shifts when the pedal is pretty much 3/4 way to floor. I'm thinking it's gotta be it.
 
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2020 | 01:56 PM
  #13  
wahlturfcare's Avatar
wahlturfcare
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
I added the grease zert between the pedals and fill it all the time.
but I checked the pedal with the motor running and the shifter(1st) shifts when the pedal is pretty much 3/4 way to floor. I'm thinking it's gotta be it.
 
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2020 | 05:33 PM
  #14  
irhunter's Avatar
irhunter
Laughing Gas
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 854
Likes: 49
From: Maine
Originally Posted by wahlturfcare
I added the grease zert between the pedals.
Cool. Got a pic of the Zerk?

I think I'd replace the master and slave.

Roy
 
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2020 | 04:38 AM
  #15  
Diesel_Brad's Avatar
Diesel_Brad
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 21,437
Likes: 76
From: Gilbert, PA
Originally Posted by wahlturfcare
I added the grease zert between the pedals and fill it all the time.
but I checked the pedal with the motor running and the shifter(1st) shifts when the pedal is pretty much 3/4 way to floor. I'm thinking it's gotta be it.

Ok that's where the whole pedal assembly pivots. I am talking right where the master cylinder attaches to the clutch pedal
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:38 AM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE