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Old Jan 18, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ForCal
It actually is possible that a diesel truck could retain value more than a gas model in certain markets. An example would be a diesel truck depreciating on resale value 10% in the first year, vs a gas model depreciating 15%. That's just a hypothetical example, but not unrealistic, and would reflect a higher retained value.

I dont think many people simply believe that paying more for something means it retains its value, some of the most expensive vehicles depreciate the most.
I agree with you. The demand and the area in which you are is what sets the value on a vehicle. The dealer will always have the upper hand if trading in. I knew my previous comments would push some buttons but just my 2 cents. I am very happy with my purchase and have no plans to trade or sell at this time.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2020 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by acadianbob
The drivetrain changes are very significant. That's what will drive initial demand for the 2020's.
I suppose it depends upon your understanding of the word "significant". I do know what changed. The differences between the 6.4 and the 6.7 are significant and worth talking about. New pistons, a revised turbo and a tune on the 6.7 is not significant -at least as I understand how that word is commonly used. Sure the power increase is great, but it's the same engine. The 10-speed is kind of an evolutionary change. The argument is really more of; Is the 10-speed a game changer over the 6-speed? The nostrils on the grill...well, that's such a minor change it's hardly worth notation.

But I'm not here to tell anyone how they should feel about it. I have only weighed in that I don't believe the introduction of the 2020 SD to the market has put much of a hurt at all on trade in or resale value. Again, you suffer the consequences of going toe-to-toe with a business that engages in trading 10 times a day, while you do it once every five years. Who has the advantage? Gee, I just don't know on this one.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by C12H24
A diesel doesn't retain value more than a gasser. Many confuse a higher resale value of a diesel with retained value. That is nonsense.

With some exceptions...namely very exclusive exotics, vehicles are a depreciating asset. Anyone considering an option based upon how it influences resale value should not be allowed around sharp instruments.
Completely disagree. If you NADA or KBB a 5 yr old truck (private party sales, not trade in) with the diesel option, you get back nearly 100% of the upcharge. IMO, that is holding its value higher than a gasser.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Fordplatty15
Completely disagree. If you NADA or KBB a 5 yr old truck (private party sales, not trade in) with the diesel option, you get back nearly 100% of the upcharge. IMO, that is holding its value higher than a gasser.
If you DON'T get the diesel, you get absolutely 100-percent of your non-investment back. Using your method, though, you can make it up on volume.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 09:21 AM
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Usually you will get almost all the diesel upcharge back on the back end of a truck deal when you sell or trade it. It still is more expensive to own after figuring in maintenance. Years ago I drove diesel trucks because they were cheaper to run. Back when diesel was cheaper than gas, injectors were cheap and easy and you could put your old motor oil into your fuel tank... Oh the years of the old 12 valve cummins trucks. These days, anyone who tries to justify a diesel as ever saving money is usually sadly mistaken. All that said, I love driving diesels because of the power when pulling heavy. Just have to pay to play....
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 09:40 AM
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Just traded my 2017 F350 CCSB Lariat 6.7 in on a 2020. Got $52 on trade and it was going to need some new tires and a windshield so I think that was fair. All the guides had it at 52-54ish.

The new truck was X-plan minus $1k so I felt I got a good deal.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ansfdev
Just traded my 2017 F350 CCSB Lariat 6.7 in on a 2020. Got $52 on trade and it was going to need some new tires and a windshield so I think that was fair. All the guides had it at 52-54ish.

The new truck was X-plan minus $1k so I felt I got a good deal.
That seems like a decent trade value. Im not selling or trading anytime soon, for the heck of it, I tried seeing what KBB puts my trade value at, for my 19 Lariat ccsb with 4k mi. It says 51-54,900. Basically the same as your 3 year old truck.

 
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