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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 08:12 AM
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2007 E450 V10 Swap

I have a 2007 e-450 assuming 2v Motor on its way out at 421k And I’ll be swapping out soon but I’m confused on which v10 engine is compatible with e chassis .... my worries comes in at which year v10 motors is compatible with my 2007 and what chassis is compatible etc like ( f series V10 2v , or e550 v10 , motor home v10 ) i have read another thread saying as long as it’s 2v it should work but I’m seeking more information as i go along take heed she’s on her way out haha
 
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 05:16 AM
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The E-Series were only 2V---they never received anything but up to the end of life in 2013. That applies to the full metal body, cutaways etc could possibly be different but not likely.

I'm assuming you're shopping for a salvage engine of some description?

A long block 2V V10 would fit your chassis however the intake, exhaust manifords and oil pan and pick up tube would be different from an F-Series. Whatever donor vehicle you retrieve will most likely need those parts swapped over from the existing engine.

While the engine is out I'm sure you'll thoroughly clean the throttle body and entire intake as well. At that mileage it's probably an oily mess. I'd replace the oil pump and carefully inspect the timing chains and valves as best you can before installation.

Here's some info I stumbled across in this very forum:

Originally Posted by peterv10
i have done the swap!

so out of experience, the difference between a 06 van motor and 00 f series are:

oil pan

oil cooler

ac compressor and lines

harnes

knock sensor

throttle body cable vs drive by wire

mouting bracket for heater hoses and fuel lines (behind the intake)

motor mounts (use you own from the f series)

pvc valve (06 has a sensor on it)

oil cap (van has a long snout)

some van has aux alt/ac's



those are all interchangeable no need to do anything to the heads, block, timing palte, injectors , just change those above mentioned parts.

must use your own harness!!! harness for the 06 van is made to integrate with the 5r110 and drive by wire systems!!!


pm me for questions about it.
Originally Posted by Krewat
Somewhere in 2002, the heads were updated for long spark plug threads. I can't answer exactly as to whether or not those heads will fit your engine, but in the Ford Modular world: I'd say they do.

From an NHTSA investigation into the plug ejection issue (that never went anywhere):

December 1996 - 4.6L 4V alignment feature added
February 1997 - 4.6L 2V head alignment feature added
September 2000 - WEP (Windsor Engine Plant) 2V head alignment feature modified (4.6/5.4/6.8)
November 2002 - WEP introduced long thread heads on 2V (all)
May 2003 - REP (Romeo Engine Plant) introduced long-thread heads on 4V 4.6 and 5.4
November 2003 - REP introduced long-thread heads on 2V and modified alignment feature

In 1999, and 2001, an interim fix was done for a cross-threading issue.
Original process:

Step 1 - Zero torque spark plug (air tool)
Step 2 - Torque to 16-20Nm final torque (DC Run down), monitor at 6-12Nm, and final torque must be reached within 0-360 degrees.

New process (addressed the possibility of applying installation torque for more than 25 degrees of rotation)
Step 1 - Zero torque spark plug (air tool)
Step 2 - Torque to 16-20Nm final torque (DC Run down) start monitor at 6-12Nm, and final torque must be reached within 3-25 degrees.

Another action to address cross-threading was the addition of an alignment feature to lead the plug into the hole.
Those quotes are from this thread: E-Series V10 Engine Swap Page 3 Posts #92 & 96.

Good engine life though---good to know those engines will go that long. Good luck on this project!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 04:22 PM
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Thanks on the information i jus needed a point of direction now it’s just on finding a replacement motor and transmission for my E450 07 model .....


Originally Posted by JWA
The E-Series were only 2V---they never received anything but up to the end of life in 2013. That applies to the full metal body, cutaways etc could possibly be different but not likely.

I'm assuming you're shopping for a salvage engine of some description?

A long block 2V V10 would fit your chassis however the intake, exhaust manifords and oil pan and pick up tube would be different from an F-Series. Whatever donor vehicle you retrieve will most likely need those parts swapped over from the existing engine.

While the engine is out I'm sure you'll thoroughly clean the throttle body and entire intake as well. At that mileage it's probably an oily mess. I'd replace the oil pump and carefully inspect the timing chains and valves as best you can before installation.

Here's some info I stumbled across in this very forum:



Those quotes are from this thread: E-Series V10 Engine Swap Page 3 Posts #92 & 96.

Good engine life though---good to know those engines will go that long. Good luck on this project!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gany Gussy
Thanks on the information i jus needed a point of direction now it’s just on finding a replacement motor and transmission for my E450 07 model .....
I have a 1999 E450 V-10 and the original transmission, stock, with 30,595 original miles, but no idea how to determine compatibility with 07.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 12:57 PM
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The only problem would be from the 99 motor is the head and spark plug back out issue
 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gany Gussy
The only problem would be from the 99 motor is the head and spark plug back out issue
Forgive me, but I don't know what that means. I mean, I know what they are, I just don't know anything about the issue you referenced.
 
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Originally Posted by bugnutz
I have a 1999 E450 V-10 and the original transmission, stock, with 30,595 original miles, but no idea how to determine compatibility with 07.
The 99 is not compatible with the 2007. You will need a 2007-2019 2v engine. They are very plentiful.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
The 99 is not compatible with the 2007. You will need a 2007-2019 2v engine. They are very plentiful.
I kinda didn't think they were compatible. Only 99 - 02 yes/no? I don't need one, that's just what I have :-)
 
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Originally Posted by bugnutz
I kinda didn't think they were compatible. Only 99 - 02 yes/no? I don't need one, that's just what I have :-)
The 2v V10 was made and used up until 2019 in the E Series, you will he able to find a used engine easily.
 
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