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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 04:22 PM
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replacement starter question

My flathead starter needs to be replaced. There seem to be three choices: new standard starter with spring bendix, standard starter with modern bendix, or the gear reduction type starter. Does anyone have thoughts or recommendations? Thanks
 
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 05:25 PM
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I would stay away from the powermaster gear reduction starters , a good friend of mine went through 3 of them in a short time as they were absolute junk .
He is now using a genuine flatty starter I gave him .
 
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 08:17 PM
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Are you 6v or 12v? I've been running a gear reduction starter on 12v for more than 10 yrs, it is great. They draw about a third of what the monster old Ford starters, puts a lot less strain on the battery and charging system. The bendix has not hung up a single time. Few stock starters can make that claim.

Not sure what brand it is, but I'm not sure they aren't all the same.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 11:15 PM
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Sure, but that old starter deep groan/growl that the originals have kinda goes right along with the charm of the flattie itself. Plus, it gives you more than one use for the baseball bat you keep behind the seat.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 12:13 AM
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Sure, but that old starter deep groan/growl that the originals have kinda goes right along with the charm of the flattie itself. Plus, it gives you more than one use for the baseball bat you keep behind the seat.
Well,sure, and hefting that 30-lb hunk of iron up into position, while keeping the end plates on, getting the Bendix past the ring gear, and threading the long bolts thru it, while laying on your back, is an integral part of the Flathead Experience, too! The G.R. starters weigh 5 lbs.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 04:40 AM
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I've only used original style bendix starters on all my equipment - they are user serviceable if need be. Oh, and all my equipment is 6V.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Well,sure, and hefting that 30-lb hunk of iron up into position, while keeping the end plates on, getting the Bendix past the ring gear, and threading the long bolts thru it, while laying on your back, is an integral part of the Flathead Experience, too! The G.R. starters weigh 5 lbs.
Can you provide some info on that GR starter?
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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Thanks all. I have a 12 volt system and a low compression engine. I agree that the installation of the standard starter can be a pain, having done it several times over the years. That is why I am considering going to the gear reduction starter or, at least, the "modern" bendix unless there are problems with them. Does anyone have experience with the "modern" bendix? Two totally different reactions to the GR type makes me wonder if one make is better then another.
 
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As far as I know, Ed, they are only available for 12v systems. Mine looks like the Powermaster starters but is branded differently, I will have to get under there to see which brand.
Some examples:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/p...view/make/ford
 
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Originally Posted by f1barry
Thanks all. I have a 12 volt system and a low compression engine. I agree that the installation of the standard starter can be a pain, having done it several times over the years. That is why I am considering going to the gear reduction starter or, at least, the "modern" bendix unless there are problems with them. Does anyone have experience with the "modern" bendix? Two totally different reactions to the GR type makes me wonder if one make is better then another.
I know that in some cases the new style Bendix drive won't go past the flywheel unless you grind out part of the clutch housing first.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
As far as I know, Ed, they are only available for 12v systems. Mine looks like the Powermaster starters but is branded differently, I will have to get under there to see which brand.
Some examples:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/p...view/make/ford
OK thanks Ross, I am staying 6 volt
 
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 06:03 PM
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I am staying 6 volt
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Originally Posted by Mixer man
I know that in some cases the new style Bendix drive won't go past the flywheel unless you grind out part of the clutch housing first.
Yes, I had that problem too. The new enclosed style Bendix would not fit. I had to replace it with the original Bendix (spring visible). Flathead Starter Bendix Replacement - The Flat-Spot

 
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 05:33 PM
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Thanks Pete; I've already ordered the new style so I guess I'll see if it fits when it gets here.
Barry
 
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I would stay with the original bendix This so called 'modern or new' is not new its been
around from I think 1957 or so. You will need a die grinder cause it will not fit thru the
hole. Most important do not spin or override the barrel or you have to take it all apart which is a big pain and reset those little 'dogs and springs'::::And then you lose that
unmistakable sound "the stugh" and the motor is "a" running.
 
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