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Old Jan 6, 2020 | 10:58 PM
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what do you think

I recently put in a new carpet and seat in my 1955 ford f100> I took off the floor shifter off to put the carpet in. Putting everything back together I have run into a problem. I put the shifter and transmission in neutral and attached the rods to the transmission. Heres the problem when you start the truck and try to put the transmission into gear the gears clash. But with the engine off you can put the transmission into gear and it works. Any gear works. I put the transmission in first gear and bump the starter and the truck lurches forward. I did this for alll three gears and reverse. Now that I know the shifter works and the rods are fine. I am thinking the clutch needs adjusting. I tried to see how much free play the pedal has. The only resistance I feel when I put the pedal down is from the return springs. What do you all think? How do I adjust this clutch? Actually when I move the clutch pedal the clutch fork hardly moves. The fork is at the back of the bell housing opening. Any ideas.

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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 07:57 AM
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How much padding did you put under the carpet ? Did you take out carpet and replace it, or is this something new ? Are you still getting the same amount of travel in the clutch pedal as before ?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 08:04 AM
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first you need free play in the pedal. Did it work before? Putting a rug in there has nothing to do with this. That clutch is not releasing. And you feel only return spring
pressure on the pedal? You should feel real pressure that means the rod has to be
lengthen'd "longer" from the pedal to the rod to clutch fork. What I do. get under there
loosen lock nut on the threaded rod I stick my hand under the fender and grab pedal,
bring pedal down while turning the rod, pliers vise grip whatever, as you
turn the rod and the pedal will rise UP then stop when the pedal has just a little free
play and tighten lock nut. Remember we are not talking inches, we are talking thousands clearance between clutch disk flywheel and pressure plate. Next make sure you get full travel with shift rods. hope this helps, I'm no story writer just a do'er.
In this case you have way too much free play in the pedal.....sam
 
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 09:30 AM
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Is the pivot still in place and secure?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 51fred
Is the pivot still in place and secure?
the carpet padding is what came on the carpet kit. I agree carpet did do this. The truck transmission worked before. Plus I have not adjusted the clutch. I think the clutch rods are ok because you can put it in gear with the engine off. I never checked the free play in the pedal before. I will check for interference it’s got to be something simple that I over looked.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 08:12 PM
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Sorry I have not updated in a while. I have been trying to fix my shifter problem. I put the transmission in nuetral and attached the shifter plates on and put th shifter rods on also. I shifted the transmission and verified that the transmission was going into the correct gear. Between I have the truck in neutral and try to go into any gear I get gear clash. So I tried to see if I shifted the transmission into gear with the engine off would it go into gear. I tried it in first second third and reverse and I bumped the starter and the truck went into gear. So I know my transmission is working and my shifter goes into gear. Im at a loss. The only other thing is clutch problem but it works with the truck off. And let me add its a hurst indy shifter on the floor. Any ideas?
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 08:18 PM
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Clutch adjustment

the carpet isn’t allowing you to push the pedal as far down. Needs adjusted
 
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 08:28 PM
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Oh snap I never thought of the carpet was to thick.I was always moving the truck around with a bare floor. The carpet with jute is probably half to 3/4 of a inch. So start adjusting out like quarter of inch out on my clutch rod? I have total adjustment length of one and a half inch of threaded area.
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 08:10 PM
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Ok I will admit I am not the sharpest tool in the shed. I broke down my transmission problems into segments. First shifter rods alignments and that the transmission shifted. Then I turned my attention to the clutch adjustments. I took off the adjusting rod and adjusted it out a quarter inch. That did nothing. Then I turned my attention to the throw out bearing. I moved the fork back and forth and I could feel the bearing move. Then I looked at the alignment of the clutch rod to the fork. It didn't look right.So I took the rod off and moved it to another hole in the bracket and presto the fork moved better. Then I moved the spring attached from the bracket to the cross member to another hole. I then started my truck I tried to put in gear and no grinding. I was very happy. But I found out it was my bone head mistake that caused all of this. Long story short take pictures before you take stuff apart and don't assume you can remember. I could not believe I was this much a knuckle head. Thanks for all the information about my post.
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 09:32 PM
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Just an opportunity to learn, I've made plenty of mistakes like that too. It's a pretty big club!
 
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