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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 06:07 PM
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I got as far as you saying the dealer will give you an F350 that has everything and more, for the same price, $20k under MSRP. Take it and run, cause that's a steal of a deal.

I'm sure there are plenty of people on here who would love to find a dealer knocking $20k off a SuperDuty. I have yet to see any, and I was casually looking at Superduty's for almost 2 years. I'll say it again, TAKE IT!
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ForCal
I got as far as you saying the dealer will give you an F350 that has everything and more, for the same price, $20k under MSRP. Take it and run, cause that's a steal of a deal.

I'm sure there are plenty of people on here who would love to find a dealer knocking $20k off a SuperDuty. I have yet to see any, and I was casually looking at Superduty's for almost 2 years. I'll say it again, TAKE IT!

^^^^ With this guy is saying. I had to buy '17 in early '19 with 1,000 miles on it to get 20K off the sticker. Stop thinking about it and do it before someone makes that 350 disappear.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 06:19 PM
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Ok im sorry if i sound stupid here, i have always driven half tons this will be my first diesel so i have never paid attention to any weight restrictions until now

keep in mind i am Canadian so the laws are different here. But the insurer of our vehicles (only one in the province and therefore controls all the laws having to do with it) has stated

Roadside inspections

Vehicles are required to meet certain standards to pass inspections for registration. However, the law also requires that vehicles always meet minimum standards.

Mandatory vehicle safety inspections are required every 12 months for:
  • trucks including truck tractors with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 4,500 kg or more
but then it goes on to say

Vehicles excluded from periodic mandatory vehicle inspection requirements include:
regulated passenger vehicles that are owned by an individual and used solely for personal transportation
now am i correct in saying that

the 2019 f250 has a curb weight of 6,446 Lbs.
Gross weight 10,000 Lbs.

and the F350 has a curb of 6,743 Lbs.
Gross weight 11,300 Lbs.

so 11000 LB = 4909 KG, which reading that would mean that i am required to have an F350 inspected but only if im using it commercially which as of right now i will not.

i called my insurance agent today its approximately 40$ less per month to fully insure an F350 then a 250, but she didnt sound very confident answering some of my questions so i am gonna have to go down in person and verify everything.



 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jaymech
keep in mind i am Canadian so the laws are different here.


Ok, well that changes things. Sounds like you need to do some number crunching.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 06:36 PM
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Ok, well that changes things. Sounds like you need to do some number crunching.
for insurance purposes you mean? yeah

as far as the vehicle price, its about 13,000 US off of the original price for you guys, so still a pretty good deal i think

i built out a new 2020 f350 with all the options and it would cost me 77,000usd vs 61,000usd for this 2019
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 06:38 PM
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Was reading through another thread and they said they changed some of those rules so it goes to nearly 14,000 now in some providences. 14,000 is what duallies are limited/registered for typically in the US.

For Canada they option 9900 F250 and 10,000 F350 SRW. That is the GVWR and it is derated (can option it too in the US but not commonly needed). To figure out the dry weight take the GVWR minus the payload on the yellow sticker. If it isnt optioned that way maybe thats why its sitting there at $20k off, plus that is Canada pricing and they are even cheaper there than here.

Convert all this LBS stuff to KG or Kilometers whatever. Dating a European woman and I am finally figuring out Celsius after getting bitched out a few times.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jaymech
for insurance purposes you mean? yeah
Canada is very different than here in the US, so I cant really speak to how you might be affected getting a 350. I just learned the other day, that some areas up there charge extra based on engine displacement, that's crazy. Depending on what kind of nonsense tax, fees and regulations they impose up there, an F350 might not be feasible unless it can actually make you money.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 07:25 PM
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I'm up in canada here, province of BC, the F350 costs 1000$ to 1500$ more to buy and is a staggering 300$ to 400$ per year on insurance as well, due to the GVRW

I opted for the F250, I barely haul, I needed a long box for my dirtbikes or else I would of bought a F150
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jaymech
...keep in mind i am Canadian...

now am i correct in saying that

the 2019 f250 has a curb weight of 6,446 Lbs.
Gross weight 10,000 Lbs.

and the F350 has a curb of 6,743 Lbs.
Gross weight 11,300 Lbs.

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For MY2019, curb weights and GVWRs vary widely (and wildly) based on cab type, bed length, engine choice, 4x2 vs 4x4, wheel and tire selection, and other options.

F250 curb weights vary greatly, but the US GVWR never exceeds 10K lbs. 9900 lbs. is an optional no-cost paper downgrade.

F350 SRW GVWRs in the US range from 10,000 lbs. to 11,500 lbs.

The 2019 Spec Brochure may help paint a clearer picture:

https://madocumentupload.marketingas...4e67b&v5=False

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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Icelink
I'm up in canada here, province of BC, the F350 costs 1000$ to 1500$ more to buy and is a staggering 300$ to 400$ per year on insurance as well, due to the GVRW

I opted for the F250, I barely haul, I needed a long box for my dirtbikes or else I would of bought a F150
300 to 400 more* per month for insurance you mean?



when i called today she told me it would be approx 150$ per month for a 250 and 140$ for the 350 lol, i am going to go see them in person tomorrow but i have a feeling this may be the one good thing about dealing with our insurance company. everything else is ****
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SDcrewzer
For MY2019, curb weights and GVWRs vary widely (and wildly) based on cab type, bed length, engine choice, 4x2 vs 4x4, wheel and tire selection, and other options.

F250 curb weights vary greatly, but the US GVWR never exceeds 10K lbs. 9900 lbs. is an optional no-cost paper downgrade.

F350 SRW GVWRs in the US range from 10,000 lbs. to 11,500 lbs.

The 2019 Spec Brochure may help paint a clearer picture:

https://madocumentupload.marketingas...4e67b&v5=False

HTH,
Jim / crewzer
I didnt see what fuel type it is, but he did say it's a Platinum F350. So at a minimum it's a 4x4 CCSB. If it's a gas motor I suppose his estimated curb weight could be close, not if diesel.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jaymech
300 to 400 more* per month for insurance you mean?



when i called today she told me it would be approx 150$ per month for a 250 and 140$ for the 350 lol, i am going to go see them in person tomorrow but i have a feeling this may be the one good thing about dealing with our insurance company. everything else is ****

No! 300$ to 400$ more per year, not per month

I deal with the scum bags at ICBC here in BC

Where in canada are you located?

My 2019 F250 CCLB is 2200$ per year to insure, that's will 3 mill liability and collision

So a F350 would be 2500 to 2600$ per year

What were you quoted per year where you live?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ForCal
I didnt see what fuel type it is, but he did say it's a Platinum F350. So at a minimum it's a 4x4 CCSB. If it's a gas motor I suppose his estimated curb weight could be close, not if diesel.
sorry, yes it is a diesel!


Originally Posted by Icelink
No! 300$ to 400$ more per year, not per month

I deal with the scum bags at ICBC here in BC

Where in canada are you located?

My 2019 F250 CCLB is 2200$ per year to insure, that's will 3 mill liability and collision

So a F350 would be 2500 to 2600$ per year

What were you quoted per year where you live?
mb, quoted 1815 per year for f350, 2 million liability, 200 deductible and loss of use protection, also added an extra 50k new vehicle insurance because they only default up to 50 new vehicle value, thats an extra 120ish a year. but still, a car is more expensive to insure here. whack
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 09:20 PM
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Holy cow! I pay around $700/year. Of course I don't have three MILLION in liability! Wow!!! Not even close.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2019 | 09:25 PM
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Holy cow! I pay around $700/year. Of course I don't have three MILLION in liability! Wow!!! Not even close.
there no way any state in the US it would be 700$ per year on a new F350/F250??????

that's $58.30 per month for insurance!!!!
if I'm wrong please correct me, that's insanely low
 
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