Notices
2017 - 2022 Super Duty The 2017-2022 Ford F250, F350, F450, F550 & F600 Super Duty Pickup and Chassis Cab
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Tremor plow question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 11:28 AM
  #1  
nhmikejones's Avatar
nhmikejones
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Tremor plow question

Noticing the Tremor option immediately omits the plow prep package, when building via Ford website.. I'm planning on reaching out to Fisher to learn more, however was curious if anyone going with a Tremor package is planning on adding a plow and/or can shed some light on this subject. Thanks!
 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 12:46 PM
  #2  
CJONE's Avatar
CJONE
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 314
Likes: 13
Ford does not want.you to add a plow to it. Can you? I am sure but then you may have a warranty issue. On my 350 I thought it was crazy I had to order a plow package just for a stiffer front spring. Or ford may deni warranty. On a one.ton? Anyway it is what it is. Cj
 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 04:53 PM
  #3  
Section179's Avatar
Section179
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,502
Likes: 165
Sometimes there is a simple explanation.

Plow prep includes different springs.
Tremor includes different springs.

does.not.compute.

Get a tremor, add the high output alternator/dual option, and throw a plow on it.

When the winch option becomes available, that looks like it may interfere with the plow frame.... but absent that, there is nothing.


Ford doesn’t want you to put a plow on a tremor? Nonsense.
 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 04:58 PM
  #4  
NorEasterMA's Avatar
NorEasterMA
Laughing Gas
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,026
Likes: 21
From: MA
Originally Posted by Section179
Sometimes there is a simple explanation.

Plow prep includes different springs.
Tremor includes different springs.

does.not.compute.

Get a tremor, add the high output alternator/dual option, and throw a plow on it.

When the winch option becomes available, that looks like it may interfere with the plow frame.... but absent that, there is nothing.


Ford doesn’t want you to put a plow on a tremor? Nonsense.
I think that the reality is that because the spring rates are different, and the Tremor is not equipped with the "plow spring" rate, it gives Ford an excuse to void a warranty claim on front end components "due to snow plow caused stress". Now this could definitely vary dealer to dealer, but I experienced this with a 2011 F350 that did not have plow prep, but had a 9.5' V-plow (company truck) and had both front wheel bearings fail at 50K. Truck had a 75K warranty and first dealer refused to fix it under warranty, citing lack of plow package on truck voided warranty with plow installed. Our dealer that we've always dealt with stepped up and pushed it through under warranty. I guess what I'm saying is putting a plow on a Tremor is just opening a door to fight for warranty work if anything ever arises. That being said, I agree with 179 - Buy a Tremor and slap a blade on it!
 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 05:08 PM
  #5  
nhmikejones's Avatar
nhmikejones
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Thanks guys, much appreciated. I'm not overly concerned with any potential warranty arm wrestling, if needed. Just wasn't sure if I was missing something from a suspension standpoint within the Tremor package.
 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 05:32 PM
  #6  
Joe T's Avatar
Joe T
Hotshot
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 10,150
Likes: 1,369
From: Chaz
I asked on another thread and someone said his tremor gawr was 5200 front springs. I believe that was the 6.7 diesel and that is the stock gawr on a 2019 6.7. The plow springs are 5990.

Just some in-site. Maybe swap to the 2019 snowplow 5990 springs after purchase.
 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 05:45 PM
  #7  
Section179's Avatar
Section179
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,502
Likes: 165
Originally Posted by Joe T
I asked on another thread and someone said his tremor gawr was 5200 front springs. I believe that was the 6.7 diesel and that is the stock gawr on a 2019 6.7. The plow springs are 5990.

Just some in-site. Maybe swap to the 2019 snowplow 5990 springs after purchase.
It’s still unclear at this point what exactly Ford is doing in the front end to gain height on the tremor. Some have hypothesized higher spring rate, others lower spring rate on a taller spring. Your mention of a lower spring rate seems to support the latter. Still... an Unknown at this point.

I don’t agree that every truck with a plow needs plow springs. A 9.5’ v-blade used commercially? F Yes. An 8’ straight used residentially? Don’t bother.


I’d get the tremor and do jack to the springs, unless you find you’re too close to the bump stops when driving with the plow up.

as the owner of 2 super duties without plow springs and one with... I think you’ll be fine, unless you’re getting a massive plow.


Massive plows used commercially and tremor packaged I don’t expect intersect often.

 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 05:52 PM
  #8  
NorEasterMA's Avatar
NorEasterMA
Laughing Gas
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,026
Likes: 21
From: MA
Originally Posted by Section179
It’s still unclear at this point what exactly Ford is doing in the front end to gain height on the tremor. Some have hypothesized higher spring rate, others lower spring rate on a taller spring. Your mention of a lower spring rate seems to support the latter. Still... an Unknown at this point.

I don’t agree that every truck with a plow needs plow springs. A 9.5’ v-blade used commercially? F Yes. An 8’ straight used residentially? Don’t bother.


I’d get the tremor and do jack to the springs, unless you find you’re too close to the bump stops when driving with the plow up.

as the owner of 2 super duties without plow springs and one with... I think you’ll be fine, unless you’re getting a massive plow.


Massive plows used commercially and tremor packaged I don’t expect intersect often.
Well said, and again I agree. It seems like nowadays everyone and their brother is running an 8.5 or 9' V-Blade to plow their driveways and those suckers are heavy. So in this new day of running a 1000# XV2 blade you may benefit from the heavier sping rate. Devils advocate. My personal trucks have always had plow package, but that '11 350 didn't and ran a 9.5' V commercially. Doubt the spring rate was the cause of the wheel bearing failure but hey.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 06:01 PM
  #9  
Joe T's Avatar
Joe T
Hotshot
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 10,150
Likes: 1,369
From: Chaz
Yeah I want to say I am pretty sure the guy had a 6.7 Tremor and said the spring gawr was 5200.

So with that said I am guessing the springs are taller, not heavier.
 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 06:21 PM
  #10  
ForCal's Avatar
ForCal
Logistics Pro
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 4,064
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by Joe T
Yeah I want to say I am pretty sure the guy had a 6.7 Tremor and said the spring gawr was 5200.

So with that said I am guessing the springs are taller, not heavier.
Is the GAWR listed on the white sticker the same as the spring rate? I remember him posting what his front GAWR was, and like you said, it was the same as a stock 19 front GAWR.

So far based on what some have posted, the Tremor doesn't really show any lift up front, no more than the 35" tire gives, instead most of the height change seems to be in the rear. The front springs are supposed to be a progressive rate spring.
 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 07:11 PM
  #11  
willynilly's Avatar
willynilly
Cargo Master
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,243
Likes: 555
if you dont exceed the front gawr on the door sticker it shouldnt matter what you hook on the front. im sure youll have a reserve around 1200lb im guessing
 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 08:16 PM
  #12  
Joe T's Avatar
Joe T
Hotshot
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 10,150
Likes: 1,369
From: Chaz
Originally Posted by ForCal
Is the GAWR listed on the white sticker the same as the spring rate? I remember him posting what his front GAWR was, and like you said, it was the same as a stock 19 front GAWR.

So far based on what some have posted, the Tremor doesn't really show any lift up front, no more than the 35" tire gives, instead most of the height change seems to be in the rear. The front springs are supposed to be a progressive rate spring.
Yeah that is the max on the front end their engineers specify. Its probably a handling issue and they want the front to sit at a certain height to match the alignment specs. Its why people with snowplow prep and no plow have issues such as death wobble, Ford thinks you have a plow weighing the front end back down.

It seems on the 2019 its 800lbs per inch. My 5600 gawr springs sit exactly 1/2 inch over the 5200s on the other trucks that I measured at the dealer and I've read the 5990 snow plow springs sit 1 inch higher.

I got the 5600 because this heavy pig truck would be close to over on the front per some axle scale weights I was reading from 5th wheel pullers (I pull a GN but similar scenario).

I dont think it would be hard for Ford to keep the 5200 spring rate and raise the Tremor. Same as a snow plow prep height, same trackbar, maybe changed the caster 1 degree to make it all work. Would raise the truck 1.5 inches from a 2020 and add in the tires and you are there at their magic 2 inches. Lbs per inch would be different though.

The OP may be fine swapping in 2019 snowplow springs. I dont know how the LSD up front would work in the snow though. I dont know how he would want to align it.
 

Last edited by Joe T; Dec 30, 2019 at 08:24 PM. Reason: Lbs per inch would be different though
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 08:50 PM
  #13  
ForCal's Avatar
ForCal
Logistics Pro
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 4,064
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by Joe T


I dont think it would be hard for Ford to keep the 5200 spring rate and raise the Tremor. Same as a snow plow prep height, same trackbar, maybe changed the caster 1 degree to make it all work. Would raise the truck 1.5 inches from a 2020 and add in the tires and you are there at their magic 2 inches. Lbs per inch would be different though.
Nope, wouldn't be hard, but based on measurements posted in other threads, it doesn't sound like that's the case. Those measurements showed very little lift compared to a non Tremor, like a half inch.
 
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2019 | 09:13 PM
  #14  
Joe T's Avatar
Joe T
Hotshot
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 10,150
Likes: 1,369
From: Chaz
I saw one and it looked pretty tall. From far off.

My 2019 5600 spring truck with 295/65/20s is probably taller.

I’ll throw a front elocker in it some day.... super tremor.

With that said I am not gonna knock the Tremor its a good looking truck with the sport package especially.


What gawr does the stock 2019 6.7 4x4 have?
 
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2019 | 07:27 AM
  #15  
nhmikejones's Avatar
nhmikejones
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Joe T
The OP may be fine swapping in 2019 snowplow springs. I dont know how the LSD up front would work in the snow though. I dont know how he would want to align it.
You're bringing up an extremely valid point in the LSD, which I have not yet considered. Thank you.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:09 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE