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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 01:07 PM
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Towing, Tires and Loading Information

Looking at a 2019 Platinum F350 to toe a gooseneck and it’s obvious I need some education on the numbers! Truck has a GVWR of 11,500 and a rear axle weight limit of 7230. The truck has LT275/65R20E 126/123R tires and it has a tire and loading information sticker that says passenger and cargo cannot exceed 3099lbs. Towing guide states for a gooseneck it can tow 20,400 with 20 inch tires. The gooseneck has a GVWR of 14k and I believe has a tongue weight of 2k. I am guessing the passengers would weigh no more than 600 lbs. I don’t understand the relationship of the math. Can someone direct me to where I can go to figure out the details as the loading information sticker of 3099 has me worried!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 02:00 PM
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Go weigh it.


I do a 14k axle gooseneck with the same truck but f250 6.7. Never had passengers though and no toolbox on the truck.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 02:03 PM
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3099 lbs. total official payload (cargo, pin weight, passengers, driver, cooler, etc.) sounds about right for that truck if it has the 6.7 diesel, 4x4, Platinum trim, and other doodads.

The specs for the base trim level model of that configuration are likely on page 24 of the 2019 Super Duty Specs publication:

https://madocumentupload.marketingas...4e67b&v5=False

See page 9 for the definition of “payload”.

2020 GVWR spec for this truck (crewcab longbed) with the new 10 speed AT plus the improved diesel is 12,400 lbs. — just sayin’!


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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SDcrewzer
3099 lbs. sounds about right for that truck if it has the 6.7 diesel, 4x4, Platinum trim, and other doodads.

The specs for the base trim level model of that configuration are likely on page 24 of the 2019 Super Duty Specs publication:

https://madocumentupload.marketingas...4e67b&v5=False

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i would love to weigh the truck and trailer, but I am in the process of buying both and essentially doing my due diligence the math will work before I sign the dotted line on both, so I greatly appreciate your assistance!

The truck is a 2019 F350 Platinum 6.7l diesel with the above tires and would have 4 people no more than 600lbs. Our trainer would haul a 14k GVWR gooseneck fully loaded. I am told the tongue weight of the trailer would be 10-15% or 14k lbs or max 2,100 lbs.

Happy to provide any other information that you need.

thank you!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 02:34 PM
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I updated my original post above. I suspect the 3099 lbs. spec on the B pillar load label is close enough.

2100 lbs. plus 600 lbs. (150 lbs. per person, really?) equals 2700 lbs. Will other cargo (tools, after-market options, coolers, other stuff, etc.) add up to less than 400 lbs.?

I’ve seen many comments about trailer pin weight being more like 20% or so.

IIRC, a dually doesn’t cost a whole lot more...

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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SDcrewzer
I updated my original post above. I suspect the 3099 lbs. spec on the B pillar load label is close enough.

2100 lbs. plus 600 lbs. (150 lbs. per person, really?) equals 2700 lbs. Will other cargo (tools, after-market options, coolers, other stuff, etc.) add up to less than 400 lbs.?

I’ve seen many comments about trailer pin weight being more like 20% or so.

IIRC, a dually doesn’t cost a whole lot more...

HTH,
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The problem with dually is once truck and trailer GVWR exceed 26k, you are in CDL licensing which is a pain to tow long distance due to hour limitations.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 02:56 PM
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That 11,500 truck requires electronic logs.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 02:58 PM
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A 10,000 Towing any trailer requires it if you go more than 150 areal miles from your office.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
A 10,000 Towing any trailer requires it if you go more than 150 areal miles from your office.
Not if you aren’t commercial, no? In other words, not if it is for personal.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 03:11 PM
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Private is ok. If it doesnt look private it may be a pain to prove in court?


You can always get a derated 350 drw too. Think they go to 11,400?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 03:12 PM
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We did the same math and realized the brochure's stated towing capacities are for a basic XL trim line. We needed more payload. We chose a King Ranch over Platinum because it gave us the option for the 6.2L gas engine, which gave us 850# additional payload (compared to the heavy diesel), but still gave us all the comfort features we were searching for. We only tow 7500#, but have over 1,000 tongue weight. Plus a snug top canopy, firewood, bicycles, extra beer coolers, etc. If you can wait a few months, the new 7.3L gas with 10 speed transmission will net you over 800# payload compared to the 6.7, and should be a towing champion....
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 03:15 PM
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What are you towing and what for?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 03:23 PM
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What are you towing and what for?
14Klb GVWR 4 horse gooseneck head to head. Dealer stated that tongue weight should be 2klbs.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 03:27 PM
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Tell us more about your intended use and planned trailer load. It’s helpful to know the trailer. The further back the axles, the more demand on the tow vehicle.
 
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Is it a LQ horse trailer? If so the pin weight adds up fast and will be well over that. If not might be close to that.
 
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