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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 05:15 PM
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I did a search on these in the 2017+ and 6.7 forum and did not find what I was looking for so if this topic has been beat to death, throw me a bone and tell me where to find it.

I have the factory service manuals for the 7.3 (all 20 pounds of them) and I would like to find the factory service manual for the current truck. It seems the prices on these things are all over the place and I am not sure which one would be the best. If anyone out there has any direct experience with these products, I would like to know if they are any good. Here are a few examples:

https://www.factory-manuals.com/expa...anual-652.html

https://www.factoryrepairmanuals.com...l-shop-repair/

https://manualsforyou.com/shop/ford-...repair-manual/
 
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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 05:35 PM
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There are a lot of really inadequate, sloppy, and stolen works out there masquerading as shop manuals. I took a quick look at those and I'd be very suspicious of those. One look like it might be sort of okay, but the prices are nowhere near what a real manual would cost even on disc. I recently worked on a car where the owner had what he said was the shop manual. It was comical. Images referenced in the text had nothing whatsoever to do with the repair. In the end, I wasn't able to make the repair because of incomplete and faulty information. In that regard, the information wasn't worth a dime.

These are the two authentic shop manual sources. They are not cheap but in the end you get what you pay for. I like to actually own the information, either on paper or disc and these are primarily online. The advantage there is as the information changes, the updates are automatic.

https://www.alldata.com/

https://www.helminc.com/helm/homepage.asp?r=
 
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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 06:21 PM
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Helm is the "official" factory service manual. I just bought one a couple days ago as a matter of fact. Still hasn't shown up in the mail yet.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 06:47 PM
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Hopefully h20camper will chime in but the pictures he’s posted from whatever manual he has are amazing ! I’d like to have a copy of it too just don’t know where it comes from.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 07:03 PM
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I went through Helm when I purchased the service manuals for the Corvette. I see they don't offer a hard copy for the Ford, just a CD. Hopefully they will get with the program as my latest PC and laptop don't even have a CD player as that tech is on its way out.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 07:06 PM
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Someone needs to get a copy of the CD and make a bunch of backups on USB thumb drives Thumb drives are pretty cheap now days... $5? Maybe we can all go in to make the cost low and back it up across a bunch of thumb drives to share so it never gets lost?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
I went through Helm when I purchased the service manuals for the Corvette. I see they don't offer a hard copy for the Ford, just a CD. Hopefully they will get with the program as my latest PC and laptop don't even have a CD player as that tech is on its way out.
Paper is on its way out. I get nothing on paper. Everything electronic. My laptop doesn't have a CD drive, but I have a USB external CD drive for those times when it's needed.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 07:21 PM
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I have the Helm manual, comes on CD, my computer doesn't have a CD so I had to get an external drive.
 
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I have external drives, it's just the idea that they need to change to a direct download.
 
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
I have external drives, it's just the idea that they need to change to a direct download.
That's what I would prefer. Direct download. Maybe they think they're less likely to see a lot more copies in the wild if they produce it on CD. I don't have a problem paying for a service manual, as long as it is obscene. $100, sure. $700, nope. The service manual for my Nissan Titan cost me $10 from an authorized source, and it was downloaded direct to my PC in 2008.
 
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Hopefully h20camper will chime in but the pictures he’s posted from whatever manual he has are amazing ! I’d like to have a copy of it too just don’t know where it comes from.
Mine is the Helm (official Ford). Not cheap but worth every penny. You can copy the CD to your hard drive and run directly from there. I do.

https://www.helminc.com/helm/product...717&itemtype=N
 
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Seeing as how the service manuals for both the 02 Ford and my 2015 Corvette cost over 400 each, less than 200 for the new truck sounds like a bargain. Helm has them listed as out-of-stock so I will order one when they become available.
 
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