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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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Help with iddentifying steering linkage

Hi guys,
my 1977 F150 seems to have a different steering linkage set up from anything listed in parts or workshop books, as in it has individual tie rod ends at each end of the linkage, and this doesn't match anything I can find, can someone identify what this set up is from?






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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 08:27 PM
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Normal '77 F150 fecal abortion steering linkage.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 08:42 PM
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That truck looks to have the commonly refereed to as the "Y" style steering and also to be lifted and NOT have a drop pitman arm or a (longer)/adjustable trac bar or trac bar drop bracket.

https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/s...977/ford/f-150

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...e+rod+end,7428
 
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 09:33 PM
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Hi Bill,
Thanks for the drawing, it matches everything I can find, and I believe that is what it should have but not what is fitted to my truck!!
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
That truck looks to have the commonly refereed to as the "Y" style steering and also to be lifted and NOT have a drop pitman arm or a (longer)/adjustable trac bar or trac bar drop bracket.

https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/s...977/ford/f-150

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...e+rod+end,7428
Thanks for the links, I can't open the O'Reilly one, and the RockAuto one shows the 13.5" solid tie rod end on the passengers side, and mine has a separate tie rod end, as well as a separate one on the drivers side!!
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Normal '77 F150 fecal abortion steering linkage.
Not quite, it looks different, but I wonder if someone turned it around? I'll do some measuring later.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 11:11 PM
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That might be a common part way completed Y to T linkage conversion? Yes it looks like you need separate threaded in tie rod ends on BOTH ends of the drag link. And the passenger side looks to have a grease zerk on the outer round edge instead on on the flat (bottom part)?? I would get one for the dvrs side and then see if it is the same. FYI one might/should be reverse threaded, I think so any way?

From LMC but for a 78/79 45-2034 TIE ROD OUTER-LH
78/79
https://www.lmctruck.com/1973-79-for...-4-wheel-drive

76/77 https://www.lmctruck.com/1973-79-for...-4-wheel-drive shows the passenger side drag link and tie rod end in one. And yes I see that both of your are separate pieces...

Maybe dvrs side https://shop.broncograveyard.com/Out...uctinfo/22706/
Passenger side but for a D60 and you have a D44 https://shop.broncograveyard.com/Out...ctinfo/22704A/

JBG kit https://shop.broncograveyard.com/Com...SABEgJ4d_D_BwE
 
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I think the standard linkage was modified in New Zealand as a lot of people didn't know where to get parts from. It looks like the outer end was cut off the passenger side and a tie rod end installed.
I appreciate everyone's help.
One question, Rockauto list RWD which looks like the right part, will it fit a 4x4? The 4x4 one they list looks different to mine.
 
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Rock Auto is usually correct on their parts as long as you have a stock set up. I would order the dvrs side tie rod end and then see if it also fits the passenger side. Or get it in a kit form and replace all back to OEM.
 
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No, it won't fit. At least I'm pretty sure it's different even though similar in design.
The RWD designation to us means 2-wheel drive, so if I'm not mistaken the lengths of the rods and perhaps even the sizes of the rod ends would be different.
Would be a shock to me if Ford used the same parts across more than two vehicles!

The easiest swap should in theory be the standard "T" style '73 to '79 style. The '76 and '77 "Y" link was also a different beast on the Early Broncos too, and those did not simply swap over to different year Broncos. But the other F150 version just might.
Might be best if someone with a standard T-style setup measured between the knuckles (steering arms) to see if it's the same distance. The tapered holes could be enlarged if needed, or made smaller with shims.

You'd also need the standard pitman arm for the other years. Preferrably a dropped arm like this (https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/produc...ion_Parts_78yr) because it looks like you have lift springs?
Then once the T-style and new pitman arm are installed, you can modify your trackbar angle as needed to make it parallel to the new draglink. Using either an off-the-shelf trackbar drop bracket, or a custom one to suit.

Paul
 
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