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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 09:06 AM
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I keep my tires at 70psi year round. Truck is stock, early 17' build. No DW issues.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
I keep my tires at 70psi year round. Truck is stock, early 17' build. No DW issues.
I have almost 40k miles, run tires at 50 psi, stock suspension... No DW here!

I am wondering if these trucks that have/getting death wobble were properly checked for loose steering components before the sale, a PDI. If this is something checked during a PDI, maybe they didn't get checked. Loose front end components fine at first but get worse and worse as time goes on until the death wobble hits. Maybe our trucks were properly checked/torqued during our PDI's.

Just a thought... 🤔
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 08:24 AM
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At 35k see if they can do the steering stabilizer and track bar (or bushings) under warranty. Check the alignment. Check your tire air pressure before you go in, last thing you want is them to blame that and send you out. At minimum change the stabilizer.

Change the front tires or use your spare if possible. At least rotate and balance. Change the shocks to good aftermarket units because at 35k they are probably due unless you babied it, and even then the stock ones are marginal.

Thats pretty much all the mystery points on these.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 10:57 AM
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Had my 17 F-250 in today for quick lane service.

I told the service writer I was having an issue with vibration in the front end at 65 and over. Never had the true death wobble.

He asked if I had a bad vibration under heavy braking at highway speed. I told him the truck does that.

I said I thought it was a tire balance issue. He told me nope, it’s a form of death wobble.

So they put the truck on the rack and sure enough, the steering stabilizer is shot. My truck only has 18,000 on it.

The parts are on order and and will be in Monday. The truck goes in Tuesday for the TSB fix.

This is the first time anyone has every said the the death wobble can take a different form then just hitting a bump. I did have bump steer, but that mostly went away when I lowered the tire pressure to 55 all around from 60 front and 65 rear.

But because of the vibration I went back to stock pressures. It helped with the vibration but there was still an issue.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 11:00 AM
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DW is killing your stabilizer. Replacing it will cover it up real nicely, but doesn't fix the underlying problem.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 11:45 AM
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Wonder if this could be narrowed down to brand of tires? I have heard of certain tires being more prone to DW. I am running Firestone Destination AT
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by claf
DW is killing your stabilizer. Replacing it will cover it up real nicely, but doesn't fix the underlying problem.
I only posted this because of different way this issue was classified as death wobble.
 

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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
Wonder if this could be narrowed down to brand of tires? I have heard of certain tires being more prone to DW. I am running Firestone Destination AT

No. it's narrowed down to a marginal front end design that wears out relatively quickly and is very intolerant to any little thing being imperfect.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 10:07 PM
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No. it's narrowed down to a marginal front end design that wears out relatively quickly and is very intolerant to any little thing being imperfect.
I'm not buying that. If that were the case we would all be having it. No one I know in person has had this issue with their aluminum SD's. I know vehicles can experience it, I had it happen to me when I was 19 driving an Isuzu Lowe's delivery truck. I had no clue what it was and was scared to death to drive it again. Jeep, Ram, GM, etc. all have owners who have reported having this. I don't know why it happens to some but I do know the reason isn't because of a bad steering stabilizer.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 10:08 PM
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No. it's narrowed down to a marginal front end design that wears out relatively quickly and is very intolerant to any little thing being imperfect.
Do you have the stock springs? No HD or snowplow springs with nothing weighing down the front? Balance and rotate the tires regularly?

Solid front axles are difficult because trailing arms are inherently difficult. If you have continual problems GM offers IFS.

Ram and Ford have some issues because of this and they take more maintenance as you said. But most go on forever without issues.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 10:12 PM
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Solid front axles are difficult because trailing arms are inherently difficult. If you have continual problems GM offers IFS.
IFS vehicles suffer from DW just the same.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
IFS vehicles suffer from DW just the same.

They absolutely DO NOT.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 10:19 PM
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They absolutely DO NOT.
May I suggest a quick google search? I promise you it's not just solid front axles that experience this. Every forum out there for any truck made today will have multiple posts about this.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 08:56 AM
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May I suggest a quick google search? I promise you it's not just solid front axles that experience this. Every forum out there for any truck made today will have multiple posts about this.
They don't have problems with anywhere near the frequency of the Fords and the problem is usually with the ABS or the electronic steering, not track bars and ball joints like these trucks.


 
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 09:19 AM
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A quick Google search shows class action DW lawsuits exist for both the current models of GM IFS vehicles and for our SD trucks.
 
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