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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 04:16 PM
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Help keeping my van alive

I'm paralyzed and drive a 1993 econoline that's set up so I can dive. Want to keep it around but it need work. So if anyone know anything on this year hit me up. My goal with it to make it so I can go off the pavement and know it needs a new motor been thinking about making the moter a 408. Like to get the body fixed from the little rust it has. It's a fully add on explore van to. To my knowledge it was like around 60k new. But I'm the 3rd other. It's got the original 351w in it

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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 10:34 AM
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It's a 93 with SD EFI, so a stroker motor's out of the question unless you do some upgrades to the computer. Off road ? Mudgrips and positive traction. But the driving can be dicey on slick highways on wet/icy/snowy roads with a posi unit.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 11:00 AM
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They make some stand alone processors for the efi but the issue will be the transmission. If you've got the money anything is possible. If your on a budget I'd do some mild upgrades to a stock 351w. Go read on some mustang forums on 5.0 upgrades with speed density and that will give you some ideas on how far you can go and what it will take. Keep in mind that the E4oD transmission is computer controlled.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 01:20 PM
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Thanks for the info will look in to it and ideas to. I was thinking something like Ford 351W Short Block 28 oz Harmonic Balancer Non-Roller Cam https://www.high-performance-engines...uct-p/sp09.htm but they say it will not work. So I'll have to do more looking in to it
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheelnon
I was thinking something like Ford 351W Short Block 28 oz Harmonic Balancer Non-Roller Cam https://www.high-performance-engines...uct-p/sp09.htm but they say it will not work.
That would work fine with an EFI friendly cam(Crane 444232), but you should seriously consider buying a '94+ roller cam motor instead. Put the stock heads on it and give the exhaust at least a little upgrade to shorty headers and an aftermarket cat/Y pipe and it will be noticably stronger than what you have now.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 03:16 PM
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Where can I find one at if you can help
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by baddad457
It's a 93 with SD EFI, so a stroker motor's out of the question unless you do some upgrades to the computer. Off road ? Mudgrips and positive traction. But the driving can be dicey on slick highways on wet/icy/snowy roads with a posi unit.
What about dif lockers instead of posi traction?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 10:04 AM
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What about dif lockers instead of posi traction?
Never used one, but the end result (improved traction) is the same. With a posi or traction loc, you have to be careful on slick roads as the front and rear can tend to want to swap places with each other if given too much gas pedal.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by baddad457
Never used one, but the end result (improved traction) is the same. With a posi or traction loc, you have to be careful on slick roads as the front and rear can tend to want to swap places with each other if given too much gas pedal.
Right, and I'm not completely sure of the difference, but is posi traction full time? If so, with dif lockers, you can engage them when you need the extra traction and disengage them when driving regular roads.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 03:12 PM
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How far off the road are we talking? A 2wd van will only get you so far. If that's not an option, a winch may be needed. Being in your condition, a winch may be hard to operate.

Is this a camping type van build?

A locker completely locks the axle shafts together. A posi-trac or limited slip will transfer power to both wheels, but never be fully locked together. There are automatic lockers like the Detroit that do allow some slippage when turning on pavement. They can be squirrely on ice. Others are selectable. The Ox locker uses a cable or air to engage. Others use air or electricity to engage. ARB, eaton, Yukon, etc all make different types.

I successfully fit 305/70r16 (actually measure 32x10x16) on my 99 e250. I did have to trim the front fenders a bit. When flexing the suspension offroad I do get a bit of rub still.



I've taken mine through some hairy stuff for a van. Even had it on top of a mountain. I hold the self proclaimed title of making it up Rollins Pass West in a van the fastest at 47 minutes. In a midnight thunderstorm for a buddy with altitude sickness.



These vans do flex pretty well, for a 3/4 ton work van.





 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 05:03 PM
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Where can I find one at if you can help
5.8L roller blocks were all standard in any Ford truck from 1995 on to when they stopped making them.
So any Ford van or F150 of the mid to late 90's should have the correct block.
It's the block the you want.
A set of the GT40 or GT40P heads that were stock on the mid 90's 5.0L Ford Explorers would also be a nice upgrade and they just bolt on!
Once you have a "roller block" you can then install any of the roller cams available for the 5.0/5.8L engines.
But I'd suggest you stay with a RV cam or similar.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbbski
5.8L roller blocks were all standard in any Ford truck from 1995 on to when they stopped making them.
So any Ford van or F150 of the mid to late 90's should have the correct block.
It's the block the you want.
A set of the GT40 or GT40P heads that were stock on the mid 90's 5.0L Ford Explorers would also be a nice upgrade and they just bolt on!
Once you have a "roller block" you can then install any of the roller cams available for the 5.0/5.8L engines.
But I'd suggest you stay with a RV cam or similar.
The roller 351 block casting is F4TE. This code can be found on a tag above the starter. They can be found in the 94 trucks too. My 94 bronco was built in Feb. 94 and it had one. There will be a "spider" shaped piece of metal in the lifter valley, holding the roller lifter alignment dog bones in place.

GT40 (3 bar) heads will bolt right on. Dont forget about checking mercury mountaineers.
GT40P (4 bar) heads will bolt on but require specific headers due to spark plug angle.

Comp camps 35-512-8 is a real torquey roller cam that is speed density friendly. Lots of truck guys run it, including myself.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue 94
How far off the road are we talking? A 2wd van will only get you so far. If that's not an option, a winch may be needed. Being in your condition, a winch may be hard to operate.

Is this a camping type van build?

A locker completely locks the axle shafts together. A posi-trac or limited slip will transfer power to both wheels, but never be fully locked together. There are automatic lockers like the Detroit that do allow some slippage when turning on pavement. They can be squirrely on ice. Others are selectable. The Ox locker uses a cable or air to engage. Others use air or electricity to engage. ARB, eaton, Yukon, etc all make different types.

I successfully fit 305/70r16 (actually measure 32x10x16) on my 99 e250. I did have to trim the front fenders a bit. When flexing the suspension offroad I do get a bit of rub still.



I've taken mine through some hairy stuff for a van. Even had it on top of a mountain. I hold the self proclaimed title of making it up Rollins Pass West in a van the fastest at 47 minutes. In a midnight thunderstorm for a buddy with altitude sickness.



These vans do flex pretty well, for a 3/4 ton work van.





BigBlue 94

I'm paralyzed so can't get to crazy off roadn. For if I get stuck. I have to get out of ride with my wheelchair. Most likely get stuck to in wheelchair. My van has a fold down back seat that turns to bed. But have taken the van down mud roads and had to get pulled out but try to stay away from getting stuck. But know no one like to get there ride stuck. But do like going camping and drive back to spots that can go fishing.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 03:22 PM
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Anything off a 1993 lightning work dose any one know ? If so what parts
Like the
Throttle Body
fuel injection
bumped parts
would it be to much of a headache ?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 03:27 PM
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Wasnt sure on how paralyzed you were. You mean you dont have a lifted 4x4 wheelchair!? Lol

Tire choice is big in a 2wd van. I'd constantly get stuck with the 28" highway tires but these bigger all-terrain tires did quite a bit better. A locking differential will be a big help too.

For fishing, I made a few hooks that hang from the ceiling. I can hang my rods on them and they dont get broken and are out of the way for other cargo.
 
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