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Old Nov 5, 2019 | 10:29 PM
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What transmission do I have ?

While the engine is out, I want to put a new seal on the input shaft ... inside of the bell housing is covered in oil (putting a rear main also).

It is a 1986, F150, 4 speed manual transmission, 4 x4 4, 4.9 six.

I went to the Rock Auto site ... lots of choices!

No tag that I can find on the trans but I will look again in the morning.

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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 03:06 AM
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https://www.fordification.com/tech/transID-man.htm See if this helps.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 03:57 AM
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Check the Certification Label on the driver's door frame. It should be close to the striker post on the cab. Do that and post a picture of the shifter and the boys here will be able to help you out. If the shifter is curvy like an "S" then it will mostly likely be the NP435.


 
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435 ... what oil ?

Didn't read them message till after I crawled under the truck. Door tag says A

Man ... 33 years of dirt and undercoating can hide anything.

Tag is broken if half but still there.

From what I can still read ...

3TA7003 VA FE3
3 86 435

So 435 it is!

Soooo ... what oil do you put in this thing?

My manual says 80W (1992 and earlier 4 speed ... 1993 and up Mercon) ... is this correct?

Transfer case say Mercon?

Rear ends say "hypoid gear lube" ..... what is this ???

At least I know the engine takes 5w30

Thanks ... Mike
 
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by xtal_01
While the engine is out, I want to put a new seal on the input shaft ... inside of the bell housing is covered in oil (putting a rear main also).

1986 F150 4WD 300 I-6 4 speed M/T
TRANS code printed on the Certification Label, glued to the left door face below the latch.

TRANS code A = New Process 435 4 Speed // TRANS code B = RTS TS-OD Top Shift 4 Speed Overdrive // TRANS code F = Borg-Warner T-18 4 Speed.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by xtal_01
Didn't read them message till after I crawled under the truck. Door tag says A

Man ... 33 years of dirt and undercoating can hide anything.

Tag is broken if half but still there.

From what I can still read ...

3TA7003 VA FE3
3 86 435

So 435 it is!

Soooo ... what oil do you put in this thing?

My manual says 80W (1992 and earlier 4 speed ... 1993 and up Mercon) ... is this correct?

Transfer case say Mercon?

Rear ends say "hypoid gear lube" ..... what is this ???

At least I know the engine takes 5w30

Thanks ... Mike
Those sound right, my '85 manual is just a little bit different than yours, but generally the same. Hypoid gear lube according to google is gear oil with and EP(extreme pressure) rating. Like this one https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produ...caAnVDEALw_wcB
 
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 09:47 AM
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Thanks!

I like the squeeze pack ... might make it a lot easier to get oil into this transmission (I was thinking about how to do that).

Question ... won't 80W-90 be to think to shift?

Long story .. way back in the days before the internet, I change the oil in a manual transmission.

Bought "gear oil" ... probably 80W-90 or something like that.

Could not shift! Took two hands to move the gear leaver.

Went to the dealer and found out is should have been automatic transmission fluid ... I could not believe automatic fluid in a manual transmission.

Never forgot that lesson!

Just wanted to be sure about how thick of an oil to put in.

Just FYI ... I use synthetic in everything ... even the lawn mower.

Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike
 
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 03:25 PM
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I'd take a length of fuel hose, 1/4" or 5/16" and drill an undersized hole in the lid of a quart bottle of trans fluid. That way you can turn the bottle upside down and squeeze it, turn it upright to fill it full of air so when you turn it back over the air will force the fluid in. Then just swap lids between bottles. Will have to look up what the latest and greatest trans fluid is for the application.
 
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He's a nice article, fluids are at the very end. The Novak Guide to the New Process 435 Transmission
 
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 05:27 PM
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WOW ... great article!

So 80W-90 it is. I will still go with the synthetic. They say it won't do any harm ... just don't "need" that much protection. Probably the last time it will ever get changed.

One more question though ... For the transfer case they say Mercon.

OK ,,, lots of choices here! Ford (Motorcraft) has Mercon V ... and also Mercon LV (not sure what this is ... not for use in vehicles requiring Mercon V, SP or Continuous chain type) .... Some like Castrol say Dex/Merc ... some say "Multi-Vehicle" ....ATF+4 (also covers ATF+3) ......

I would like to put some kind of synthetic in it ... which do I use?

Thanks again !!!!!!!!!!

Mike
 
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 05:36 PM
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https://www.motorcraft.com/us/en_us/...on-fluids.html So this is where I ended up, some of those descriptions contradict what I was going to say... So, here's a list of fluids lol
 
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 05:43 PM
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So .... do I choose a Mercon V .... or ?????
 
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by xtal_01
So .... do I choose a Mercon V .... or ?????
I'm not going to be able to help with that, the one from the list says not to use in transfer cases. But Mercon V is backwards compatible and yours requested it specific... so I dunno
 
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 05:58 PM
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Exactly!

It says not to use but as you pointed out ... backwards compatible!

Maybe someone else can weigh in on this.

thanks again .... Mike
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 11:41 PM
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Hey!

What do you guys think about this stuff for the transfer case ?????

https://tinyurl.com/y3fmj8qo

It says transfer case oil but then says it does not meet OEM spec. (or at least does not cross reference to them ... reading the answers to questions asked).

Thanks again .... Mike
 
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